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Speculation Will we possibly finally see the Whills?

Discussion in 'Star Wars: Sequel Trilogy (Released Films)' started by TheAvengerButton, Nov 13, 2012.

  1. Pfluegermeister

    Pfluegermeister Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Anyone ever notice that the guy second from the right looks a hell of a lot like George C. Scott? Same scowl and everything...

    [​IMG]
     
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  2. fishtailsam

    fishtailsam Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I desperatly wanted to see those guys in the PT.

    [face_sigh]
     
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  3. darklordoftech

    darklordoftech Force Ghost star 6

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    Mystery Roach, I noticed that in the new TCW Yoda episodes,
    the Priestesses state that they're beyond good and evil.
    I was reminded of your theories about the Whills.
     
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  4. Mystery Roach

    Mystery Roach Force Ghost star 4

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    Oh yeah that's right! I forgot but I remember thinking that when I saw it too.
     
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  5. darklordoftech

    darklordoftech Force Ghost star 6

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    Considering that Palpatine considered himself to be above good and evil, is it possible that Palpatine wanted to become a Whill?
     
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  6. Mystery Roach

    Mystery Roach Force Ghost star 4

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    I think it's more that evil people have a tendency to place themselves above the concept of morality in order to justify their evil actions, but that is an interesting notion.

    If he does manage to come back as a spirit, there will need to be some explanation as to how he's able to do this when other Sith aren't.
     
  7. A Chorus of Disapproval

    A Chorus of Disapproval New Films Malleus Maleficarum star 8 Staff Member Manager

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    Certain Sith motives really are morally ambivalent (the Plagueis novel had me almost believing in the Imperative...) but the fruit of their motivations does tend to classify them.
     
  8. I Are The Internets

    I Are The Internets Force Ghost star 8

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    Some Sith just want to watch the galaxy burn.
     
  9. fishtailsam

    fishtailsam Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    No!

    No!

    Bad Internets!

    Bad!
    [face_not_talking]
     
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  10. darklordoftech

    darklordoftech Force Ghost star 6

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    Lucas refused to tell Filoni whether or not the Priestesses are Whills. Might Lucas be maintaining a surprise for the ST?
     
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  11. Mystery Roach

    Mystery Roach Force Ghost star 4

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    That's interesting. Where did you hear that?
     
  12. Darth_Pevra

    Darth_Pevra Force Ghost star 6

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    Can I say that I honestly don't care whether the Priestesses are Whills or not? It doesn't change one bit about their story.

    What is important to me is that the Jedi and the Sith themselves become more mysterious again.
     
  13. StoneRiver

    StoneRiver Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I too would like to know the source of this.
     
  14. Circular Logic

    Circular Logic SWTV Interview Host star 4 VIP - Game Host

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    The source is from Dave Filoni's latest RebelForce Radio podcast from yesterday. I haven't listened to it, but those who did say that Lucas wanted to keep the Priestesses mysterious and that while Filoni suspected they could be Whills, Lucas would not identify them as such. Further, it would seem that Lucas' belief that no Sith spirits really exist is reinforced in this interview, so my EU explanation that those Sith specters may be real could well be the wrong interpretation after all, and that the Priestesses were indeed conjuring up the illusions as part of Yoda's trials. There are plenty of other clarifications regarding the TCW bonus content arcs as well, but these are the main takeaways that could be most relevant to our TCW/ST discussions.
     
  15. Buddha Fett

    Buddha Fett Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Yes…their Fru-its are E-ville. :p

     
  16. Krueger

    Krueger Chosen One star 5

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    As would I.
     
  17. StoneRiver

    StoneRiver Jedi Grand Master star 4

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  18. darklordoftech

    darklordoftech Force Ghost star 6

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    I do wonder if the Priestesses will appear in the ST. Learning about them would be very interesting.
     
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  19. Dameron

    Dameron Jedi Master star 4

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    Yes. At the moment, the Mortis and Yoda arcs of TCW strike me as a great big waste of time, but we've got to reserve judgment until we find out whether or not one or both of them are the best sneak preview of ST ideas we'll ever get.
     
  20. T-R-

    T-R- Chosen One star 5

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    You bet we will:

    [​IMG]

    Bob Whills and his secret journal of galactic events.
     
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  21. Julian Skywalker-Solo

    Julian Skywalker-Solo Jedi Padawan star 1

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    Man I hope not.

    The prequels, EU, & the clone wars all suffer from showing and telling too much. I want things to be mysterious rather than explained. Just because I might ask the question of why Vader seemed confused about Obi-Wan's death, doesn't mean that I need it to be explained that it's some ancient force technique that Obi-Wan's old master was researching. I really don't want the new trilogy to complete a 9 episode arc but to be a new 3 episode one that doesn't rely on being heavily referential of the past 6 or outside material.

    Whills sound more like they belong in Farscape than Star Wars.
     
  22. swish19

    swish19 Jedi Youngling

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    I think that the Celestials that made a brief appearance in the Clone Wars might be the closest thing we will ever see to the Whills in Star Wars. Their story arc really brought a lot of the mysticism back into Star Wars that was missing in the PT and, while I would love to have a little bit more of an idea as to who the heck they are, I think trying to explain them too much could be dangerous.
     
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  23. darklordoftech

    darklordoftech Force Ghost star 6

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    I don't see how Whills in the ST would be any different from Sith in the PT. The OT novelizations introduced the term "Sith" and then the prequels revealed what the term meant. Similarly, the OT and PT novelizations introduce the Whills so the ST could explain who they are.
     
  24. Count Zero

    Count Zero Jedi Knight star 4

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    Only if they look like these guys

    [​IMG]