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WIP: V-Wing by a newbie

Discussion in 'Scifi 3D Forum' started by RylorTaduri, Jun 17, 2003.

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  1. RylorTaduri

    RylorTaduri Jedi Master star 2

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    Hey guys,

    I've put everything I've got so far in this, been working on it for 6 hours.

    comments plz?

    www.geocities.com/alexgingras/test4.jpg
     
  2. RylorTaduri

    RylorTaduri Jedi Master star 2

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    http://www.geocities.com/alexgingras/vwfinal.jpg

    Still a few details missing but not bad for a newbie?
     
  3. Golden-Y

    Golden-Y Jedi Master star 3

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    Yeah, that's pretty good there. Now, to move up from newbie to.....better than newbie ( ;) ) add more details to the model, more greebles (not the plugin, actual greebles), and modify the textures a bit to make it stand out better. But good job though. Thumbs up! :)
     
  4. Kstar__2

    Kstar__2 Jedi Youngling

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    everything that golden-Y said :D

    thumbsup!
     
  5. RylorTaduri

    RylorTaduri Jedi Master star 2

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    What are greebles actually? And how could I make the textures look better?

    Thanks for the comments :)
     
  6. Golden-Y

    Golden-Y Jedi Master star 3

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    Greebles are the small detailings that you see on objects, ie. pipes, wires, boxes, thingies, etc.

    To help improve the texturing, I would model in the lines that you use for bump maps so it's part of the actual model. This will give it a sharper look to it. Some more grime and worn out areas on the texture also helps bring more realism to the model.

    :)
     
  7. RylorTaduri

    RylorTaduri Jedi Master star 2

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    I've started working on the greebles.

    For the others things you suggested, instead of bumps I should do a boolean with substracted boxes?

    Thanks!
     
  8. Golden-Y

    Golden-Y Jedi Master star 3

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    I would use Shapemerge with splines.
     
  9. RylorTaduri

    RylorTaduri Jedi Master star 2

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    Hmmm

    Well I know how to use shapemerge, but... how do I use it for bumps?
     
  10. RylorTaduri

    RylorTaduri Jedi Master star 2

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    Here are your greebles ;)

    www.geocities.com/alexgingras/Version3.jpg
     
  11. PapaFett

    PapaFett Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Actually, I believe those are your greebles :)
    Getting much better Rylor. More greebles are needed, many-many more.
     
  12. The-Matt-Man

    The-Matt-Man Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Well, I for one am truely impressed. A while ago, we have a guy saying he's a newb, and now he's tring new things until he gets his peice looking right. Hats off to you Rylor!

    -Matt

    (Hmmm....that's right, I don't wear hats....sandals off to you Rylor!)
     
  13. Dr. Jones

    Dr. Jones Jedi Padawan star 4

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    you have problem with smoothing groups
     
  14. RylorTaduri

    RylorTaduri Jedi Master star 2

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    RylorTaduri Jedi Master star 2

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    This week's been really weird... Back Monday I had NO idea on how to do decent modelling... And know... I feel like Neo, in the Matrix, when he gets shot and gets up! Woooo! I'm invicible!

    LOL! :D

    Well I know my models are not flawless. Where should I add more greebles? Oh and yes, my textures look fake... As far as the smoothing groups are concerned, what should I do?
     
  16. vinman009

    vinman009 Jedi Youngling star 2

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    That is very good model but one thing I noticed was the edges are way too sharp you should bevel them so the dont look so precise that will also add a source of realism.

    -Vinman
     
  17. Golden-Y

    Golden-Y Jedi Master star 3

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    Yeah, it's looking great. The smoothing problem can be fixed by going into your modifing tab and in the menu, select Smooth. This should take care of it. And as Vinman009 posted, add some beveling on the edges to round it off slightly. This will help with realism.

    Indeed, you're coming a long way. Keep it up.
     
  18. RylorTaduri

    RylorTaduri Jedi Master star 2

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    Thanks a bunch for the comments.

    Yeah I noticed it's too sharp. It really bothered me, 'cause I feel I'm back in the mid-90's playing X-Wing on DOS. LOL! :D
     
  19. the_dig

    the_dig Jedi Youngling star 1

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    The old X-Wing game with sharp edges? LOL :D
    (Maybe Tie Fighter-CD-Collection in SVGA)... ;)

    I like your ship. It still looks very WIP-like but: Great start.
     
  20. RylorTaduri

    RylorTaduri Jedi Master star 2

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    Oh my I'm getting nostalgic here...

    Alpha, ONE, mission, critical, craft, under, attack.... LOL

    Admiral Zaarin, Admiral Harkov... Thrawn...

    Good old times... I remember playing it on my old 200 Mhz... being blown away by the "breathtaking" graphics... LOL :D I remeber, I was 12 back then... Used to wake up at 5 AM to play...

    My parents came down, half awake, and they'd be like "What the heck are you doing on the computer at this time!"

    Anyways, I want to change the front cockpit, it's too square... any suggestions? and where should I put more greebles?

    Thanks!
     
  21. RylorTaduri

    RylorTaduri Jedi Master star 2

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    Well Dig, actually it was the Lucasarts Archives...

    Tie Fighter, Rebel Assault 1 & 2, Dark Forces Demo, a preview of Behind the Magic...

    Stupid TIE fighter, it crashed so often...!

    Good old memories... Rookie One, Ru Mureen. I remember playing it with my friends and see who'd have the better score... shooting down TIE fighters...

    But I really enjoyed TIE Fighter anyway, I loved shooting down Rebel scum! But hey I don't want to go back to those graphics... Once you pop, you cannot stop.

    Long live 3D to the Max!!!!
     
  22. RylorTaduri

    RylorTaduri Jedi Master star 2

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    Hmmm guys I'm having problems beveling the edges... I can't do it, it's like an inactive button... Help?
     
  23. RylorTaduri

    RylorTaduri Jedi Master star 2

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    And where should I add the other greebles?
     
  24. the_dig

    the_dig Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Well, in our country there was a X-Wing and Tie Fighter Collector-CD with all Addons (Tie Fighter in 640*480)
    My first PC-Game I bought: Rebel Assault (I was very disappointed)
    2nd: XWing-CD (excellent)
    3rd: Tie Fighter-CD (best space simulation ever)
    4th: Dark Forces (From now on 3D-Shooter Fan)
    :D :D
    enough of this...

    Bevel: You must select the EDGES you will bevel and then CHAMFER (value)

    You can look at finished Models to get some ideas. Maybe you should add some metal-plates on the wings and cockpit front...
     
  25. RylorTaduri

    RylorTaduri Jedi Master star 2

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    Been refining it a bit today with the beveling, redone the cockpit and added a couple of details.

    http://www.geocities.com/alexgingras/Version4.jpg
     
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