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Anyone else getting socialpages malware when you try to go on Wookieepedia?

 

No but it is annoying. The whole "Fandom" thing Wikia is doing is frankly insane- it's meant to be an encyclopaedia not a fan/entertainment site. This branching off for companies hurts them in the long term- Tapatalk the mobile forum app for instance is slowly turning itself into a form of social media when there is no reason for that.

@Brandon Rhea
I think the discussion needs to happen- Buy a website domain and switch out the content- you then get full control over everything and can do what you like. The BSG Wiki inspired site is great and uses the same themes.

Only problem is democracy- the "ruling elites" cough certain user (Toparawa) either wouldn't go along with it or they would and end up ruining a new site version- through either trying to gain full control or just generally being a nuisance.

If you could keep him out then all should be good. I would happily pay for a website domain (hosting/set up etc.) as long as Toparawa is kept out.

 

While we're dictating policy to Wookieepedia (I'm not being sarcastic--let's definitely do that), this has me wondering--is there an actual rule against using Pablo's tweets as citations? If not, shouldn't there be?

 

Sometimes, it's all we have to prove a point. Until the release of Complete Locations, the name of Trinto Duaba was only known to be canon through his tweets. And even now the name's confirmed, we still need one of Pablo's tweet to prove Duaba was also the pale old man in TFA.

 

My thoughts on the canonicity of the single-seater variant of the Y-wing- seeing as the Reklam Station ships are two-seaters:

and the trivia gallery says:

"the captured Y-wing fighters will make their way to the Gold Squadron seen in the attack against the Death Star in Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope"

http://www.starwars.com/episodes/steps-into-shadow-trivia-gallery

this strongly suggests that Gold Squadron ships are the same ships. Odd, if Gold Squadron's are supposed to be a later single-seat model:

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/BTL_Y-wing_starfighter/Canon

The later BTL-A4 Y-wing was a variant, single-seat tactical strike spacecraft, which lacked the gunner's position of earlier models. This variant was utilized by both the Alliance to Restore the Republic and New Republic during the Galactic Civil War.[17]


Raising the question of whether the "single seater" actually exists as a separate production model:

http://www.starwars.com/databank/y-wing-starfighter

"many had been stripped of hull plating and engine nacelles to make maintenance easier, and models that eliminated the gunner’s turret had been introduced."

or whether it is merely a field modification of the two-seater.


Think there's some changes to be made to the Databank, as well as Wookieepedia?

I would suggest that rather than "eliminating the turret" it was a case of "turret becomes remote-controlled from a gunner's position inside the hull" - the glass transparisteel dome is gone, but the turret and gunner are both still present.

 

But why is any of that necessary? Isn't the wook supposed to be a passive chronicle? If something's unknown, it's unknown. What if Pablo deletes a tweet? Or something comes out and contradicts him anyway?

 

if Lucas saying Motti's first name as a joke on TV makes something canon, then Pablo's tweets do as well.


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We take screenshots of relevant tweet so we can keep them if they're deleted. But you see, the thing is this: if Pablo has an answer, it's not really unknown, is it? He does not just make it up. He does say "I/we don't know" sometimes.

 

And a lot of the time he couches his answers in "I've always seen it as..." which IMO specifically calls attention to it being a subjective statement and not the Word of God.

Oh, and not for nothing, but there's also the several times he's literally said not to cite his tweets as canon.

 

And it's absolutely not a habit at LFL to give mixed signals, of course. Tweet citing is only meant as a temporary measure, or a way of clarifying ("Did you indeed mean that character to be the same as this one?"). Whenever a printed source confirms something that used to be supported by a social media citation, said citation disappears. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that.

 

So The Holocrons of Fate page says that "he lives" is Obi Wan? Why though? it's not confirmed by any source that he is Obi Wan so isn't that just speculation on the page.

 

It doesn't look like it still appears on the page's current version. Some people keep adding it, despite the fact that it's pure speculation... and it keeps being reverted.

 

C'mon, Maul is clearly talking about Obi-Wan, let's be ahead of the game here for once, people!

 

We have good reason to believe that it's Obi-Wan, but that's not a confirmation. Until we have a confirmation, I agree it should be left out.

 

It hasn't been just an encyclopedia in a very long time. Fandom (previously Wikia) used to be a simple wiki farm, but it's been an entertainment site for a very long time. It's actually the largest entertainment fan site in the world. Fandom better represents what the site is and what the vision of the site is.

Wikis, however, remain as encyclopedic as they want. Wookieepedia, for instance, isn't changing because of the Wikia to Fandom rebranding.

You know I actually work for Fandom, right?

Yeah, I tend to only use social media citations (from anyone) when they're explicit. There are lots of tweets that are clearly just the person's opinion that shouldn't be used. "It was intended as" or "I've always seen it as" shouldn't be used IMO.

Generally malware reports end up being the result of viruses already on someone's device. However, if you're seeing ones that aren't on your device, please report it: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contact/bad-ad

Because those would be the result of ads being served to Fandom from a third party ad network. So we would want to know what the ad is, so we can find the network and then cut it off from the site.

 

Brandon rn

 

Not for nothing but Vader should've chosen the emperor in that scenario.

YEAH I SAID IT

 

Well, the hate is certainly flowing through me now.

 

Alright people, it seems that Vthuil has fallen. Somebody restrain him/her/it before somebody is hurt.

 

That's the kind of forward thinking that gets you banned at the Wookieepedia.

 

Anyone remember that time when it was literally days before TFA and they acknowledged the EU problem, "voted" for a separate tag and then implemented right before the film's release.

 

I wanted that done sooner as well. But, like a lot of people in this thread, it seems like you're harping on Wookieepedia about that solely to be vindictive. Is that really productive? I don't think so.

As for Maul - he's most likely talking about Obi-Wan, yeah, but do we know for sure? Nope. Why does there need to be a rush to add information? This is exactly the kind of thing that makes people like Pablo Hidalgo not want to talk about canon on Twitter. People are in such a rush to know things and document things right away that they forget to let the story unfold.

We'll know eventually what Maul (and Ezra) was talking about. Wiki articles, which shouldn't be a priority when it comes to consuming Star Wars story content, can be updated at that point.

 

On the front page, under "Explore Star Wars", there is a link to the comics category, and when you hover over it, it shows some links to popular comic series. However, none of the links are to new Marvel comics. I can't edit the front page, but I think it would be great if someone added at least the ongoing Star Wars and Darth Vader series.

 

Why are http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Department_of_Redesign and http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Imperial_Department_of_Redesign separate articles? They seem to be the same thing.


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Yep, it's definitely a mistake. I've been planning to merge them for a while, but never found the time.