World Affairs Governed by Secretive Cabal?

Before you shoot me down, here me out.

Is it possible that world affairs have been directed to any extent by a shadowy group of conspirators whose aim is to create a singular world government?

Could most (if not all) world leaders be a part of this society, all cooperating towards a common end, with wars being a facade to ensure public ignorace or a means to achieve their ultimate goal?

Is is conceivable that this group has existed for sometime while maintaining its secrecy from the general public?

If they do exist, could their plans include a less than savoury end for the majority of the human race so that a resources can be spared for a far smaller and more manageable population?

I am undecided on this. Conventional thinking views the notion of a covert elite governing world affairs as preposterous, but the evidence is extensive and compelling, if somewhat conjectural.

Certainly, most of you will find this query frivoulous and unfounded, but I would appreciate constructive input from all sides of the issue.

 

No.

 

Explain.

 

There is, however, a Net-wide conspiracy to make stranger-danger believe there is a secretive cabal governing world affairs.

 

Stupid sheeple.

Maybe they have the right idea in exterminating most of you.

 

I sure hope so, the world needs a global government, especially one with socialist and environmentalist leanings. For once I agree with the Pope.



What is this evidence you speak of? I'm sure I've heard of them before, but if you want this thread to amount to anything, you should present it. Alex Jones and DennisFromOregon don't count, neither does AboveTopSecret or WhatDoesItMean. Yeah, I've heard of them, I've read them for entertainment. But they are the biggest propagandists on the Internet, appealing to human fears.

Also, do you really think it is within human nature for all powerful leaders to be working together in perfect concert with perfect secrecy in order to achieve a single goal which would put them out of a job?

Anyways, I'm off to Bilderberg Group headquarters to meet with the Trilateral Commission and Council of Foreign Relations now to discuss the New World Order, then it's off to the Vatican and United Nations tomorrow to discuss the future of the Federal Reserve, World Bank, International Monetary Fund, and World Trade Organization. I have to make sure that my Socialist spies have sabotaged the latest perpetual energy generator and assassinated the guy about to spill the truth about 9/11, all the airplanes have had their mind-control chemtrail tanks refilled, initiated the new members at Skull & Bones and the Bohemian Grove and my Freemasonic lodge, plot the next war with the 13 bloodlines of the Satanist Illuminati, observe if brainwashing techniques with Hulu.com and Spongebob are proceeding to my satisfaction, meet with the alien ambassador from Mars at Area 51, dish out tomorrow's scripts to Sean Hannity and Keith Olbermann, see if all the FEMA concentration camps have finished construction for Overlord Obama, create another birth certificate for Overlord Obama, and then see if HAARP will succeed in flipping the magnetic poles in 2012. Busy, busy, busy. So goodnight.

 

It's "conspiracy theories" such as these which lead to the deriding of those who have legitimate questions about how things are done in governments, in my personal opinion.

 

If there IS a secretive cabal orchestrating the world's affairs, I can only conclude that they're utterly incompetent.

 

If you can sit through Revenge of the Sith, dark side playthroughs of both KOTOR games and the bad ending to Force Unleashed without blinking, might I suggest this which plays with a similar idea.

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As for whether or not there is a secret Coven governing the world, I think you're on the right track in how corporations work hand in hand with government and nations working together. But some society where wars are faked? No, for one it is too intelligent an idea to come up with and for another an intelligent enough person would soon realize something stank about...Iraq for example.

 

There are corporations now that are in some very concrete ways operating outside the effective control of any one nation. I think that's a problem.

 

Fortunately, you're not worth the Cabal (tinc)'s wrath.

 

To repost:

Someone once pointed out that belief in conspiracies can actually make believers feel better. To believers, their conspiracies place the world in order.

If some shadowy cabal is responsible for all the evil in the world, then evil has a form and a purpose, and you know (or think you know) what to watch out for.

On the other hand, if most or all of the world's evil comes from the random chaos of thousands and thousands of groups and individuals ? some you might never have even heard of ? constantly scraping for survival, sometimes fighting each other, hatching half-baked plans, slipping up, causing unintended consequences, or just being bat**** crazy... Well, what can you do about that? How do you even begin to comprehend it?

It's like the difference between Satan and Cthulhu. Satan: Fallen angel; we get angels. Prizes human souls as a way of spiting God; he hates humans, but he sees a kind of value in them. He's nasty as all hell, but he's comprehensible. Cthulhu: Incomprehensible force of primal madness. Could shatter the planet without even knowing it. Lovecraft's characters went insane for a reason.

Humans are hard-wired to seek out patterns, whether they're real or just perceived. At its base, it's a survival mechanism; you won't be much of a hunter or gatherer without pattern-recognition skills. And "hard-wired" means exactly that; your brain rewards you, with endorphins, for accepting information you agree with, and also for rejecting information you don't want. That last bit is where things can go wrong; people tend to ignore information that doesn't fit the patterns they want to see.

Of course, once they start doing that, they're not really "seeking the truth" anymore. They think they already know the truth. What they're seeking is validation.

 

If there IS a secretive cabal orchestrating the world's affairs, I can only conclude that they're utterly incompetent.



Exactly!

 

Maybe....


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bilderberg_Group

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trilateral_Commission

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_Century

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_on_Foreign_Relations


Regardless, the above wield considerable power on the world scene, more than most people know.

 

Pick up a copy of "the superclass" by David Rothkopf who used to be deputy undersecretary for international finance under the clinton administration. It describes the most powerful positions of the world and the amount of influence they wield. In short, no there is no conspiracy but there is a "community" of ultra-elites in the world who (by virtue of going about their daily lives) make decisions that influence millions every day. It includes politicians, terrorists, religious leaders, leading intellectuatls and scientiests and a whole lot of business people. In his estimation the "superclass" totals about 6000 people with the amount of influence you'd be interested in.

Case in point:
Total hedge fund market value was 2 trillion in 2007
There are approximately 10,000 hedge funds
They encompass about 30 to 50% of all trading activity of the markets they trade in
In short, they have massive effects on stock prices
Of the 3 trillion, 85% is represented by only 300 of those 10,000 funds.
When those funds move, the market, investors, companies and employees all feel it.
Thus the managers of those funds and the people they represent have massive influence whether consciously directed or not.

There's no conspiracy though. The superclass isn't an organized cabal.

However, as with all social classes they tend to run into each other a great deal (make of that what you will).

 

This is why people finally started to talk about "systemic risk", for example AIG's total exposure to credit default swaps before its collapse. It's not quite the same as a conspiracy, but it was certainly true that the viability of the global financial system was inextricably linked to the health of a surprisingly small number of financial institutions.

A lot of smart people acting in concert and motivated by greed (at the peak of the boom you had single hedge fund mangers earning $100s of millions in annual compensation) often add up to a confederacy of dunces. The whole is much worse than the sum of it parts.

 

I'm going with "no", in the hopes that a secretive cabal would be much better at the job.

 

The truth about this has already been revealed:

Isn't it obvious?

Kimball Kinnison

 

Never can tell. Maybe it's a WIP.