Full Series Would Ahsoka have been made a Knight if she came back?

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No one's telling you how to feel. I definitely didn't hate the Jedi there (Though I admit to saying "Really Windu?" when he started going on about the will of the Force at the end.)
I just felt sad for everyone involved in it. The Jedi could only have made the decision to expel her, nothing else was really an option. Their only problem is that instead of admitting to Anakin and Ahsoka that the Senate had them over a pit on the issue, they tried to act like it was their own decision and they had actually found her guilty. They couldn't have known - or at least wouldn't admit to themselves - that said Senate trial would not only push for the death penalty but also be a complete Kangaroo court. And that's why Anakin's trust issues with the Jedi in ROTS actually make sense to me now.
And this time Palpatine didn't even have to do anything. It was a terrible situation for everyone and everyone came out worse for it.

Not to mention that Ventress chewing out Anakin with a legitimate reason is just priceless.

 

I didn't feel there was an agenda either I simply watched the arc and wanted Tarkin to nail her. Alas, as I figured he wasn't permitted to.

 

Dude, Tarkin won that arc. He wanted to convict a Jedi of the crime in order to discredit them so that he could move into the vaccum created by their removal in the military hierarchy and actually get stuff done right.

Doesn't matter which Jedi it is.

 

Bringing Ahsoka in, would drag away the attention of the audience from Ezra.

 

In the Darth Plagueis novel, it's mentioned that the Sith played a big part in giving the Jedi order some extra flaws - Darth Tenebrous's Master (Tenebrous was Plagueis's) opened a "rend in the Force" and as a result, the Force began to slip out of balance and the Jedi began to become complacent, among other things - though they also sensed that the Dark Side was beginning to return, even if they didn't know why.

Plagueis and Sidious work together to tip it even further.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Darth_Tenebrous'_Master

 

Yeah I've seen crazy Ahsoka fans say both of those things, but I just ignore them because it's stupid and oversimplifies it.

Honestly I think a lot of the reason Ahsoka decided to leave was because of what the whole experience showed her was wrong with the Republic, not the Jedi.

That arc highlighted the flaws of everyone involved other than Ventress, whose awesomeness was highlighted instead.

 

It breaks my heart this book was not made canon.

 

She does lose to Barriss though. Her awesomeness may have been as much in "telling Ahsoka and Anakin a few home truths" as in combat - though beating stormtroopers without killing them deserves a mention.

 

Agreed, but hey, it's Star Wars. I'm used to glossing over the occasional lame line in order to make a good reasoning about something.

I chalk that up to her not really knowing exactly why she did it at that point, and in that conversation she was more focused on making sure Anakin knew that she wasn't blaming him for anything. Because she would definitely be worried about him thinking that after the way she ranted at him in The Jedi Who Knew Too Much.

She really wasn't in the most rational state of mind for most of that arc, and I can't say I blame her.

Yeah Barriss of all people got the drop on her. Eh, everyone gets jumped sometimes. But watching her yell at Anakin about the Jedi and him not being able to argue back because he actually agreed with her definitely made up for it.

 

Let's not forget that Ahsoka also didn't have her shoto with her, so she was hindered. Though I guess the argument could be made that Barriss was also hindered cause she just picked up Ventress' sabers.

 

We're talking about Ventress' awesomeness here.

Why Ahsoka lost to Barriss is obvious. She went into that fight already exhausted physically and mentally.

 

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Plus, Barriss has how many years of experience on her compared to Ahsoka? She's older then her isn't she?

 

By four years, yes. Barriss was 20 in that arc.

 

Question is, how did Ventress lose to Barriss? Barriss didn't seem especially powerful in the Geonosis arc - she was still a Padawan then. Ventress, in the same period, is capable of taking on Obi-Wan and Anakin simultaneously and living to tell the tale.

Maybe she's very good at "getting the drop on people".

 

Didn't Barriss apparently surprised attacked Ventress, knocking her out cold and stealing her lightsabers? I might have to rewatch the episode, but I think that is what happened.

 

She seems to have just discovered how to fight dirty. She didn't actually give Ventress a chance to fight back, she just threw a hunk of metal into her face at thirty miles per hour. Then with Ahsoka she fights as unfairly as possible.

 

I find it hard to believe that Ventress got snuck up on like that. Not to mention she has skills herself on sneaking. Does Barriss know how to hide her presence in the force?

I guess Barriss isn't so impressive in an all out fight. She got beat by Anakin the second he got serious. Though she is very resourceful, as shown in her fight against Ahsoka.

 

She was fighting Anakin Freaking Skywalker when he was absolutely furious, of course she didn't stand a chance there.

 

Well, even if Barriss won, she still had trouble beating Ahsoka. Anakin and Obi-Wan have easily outdueled Ahsoka so...

 

I thought Barriss hid herself when she killed Letta while Ahsoka was in the cell as well.

Anakin's a powerful Jedi though. I wasn't surprised that she got taken down by Anakin so fast.

Anyway, I have a question. Was Barriss a Jedi Knight by this point? Or was she still a Padawan?

Edit: Ninja'd

 

I'm pretty sure she was a knight by this point.

Oh and also, Ahsoka isn't really that impressive of a duelist. She failed to at least disarm Hondo. -_-
I mean, she did hold back but still. Hondo should not have given her trouble at all.
And Barriss struggles to beat her...

 

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She was a Knight