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Wouldnt the empire find out that Bail Organa's ship delivered Padme's body to Naboo?

Discussion in 'Prequel Trilogy' started by Joe_Garelli, Jul 25, 2008.

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  1. Joe_Garelli

    Joe_Garelli Jedi Master star 1

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    I wonder about this question, Bail Organa's ship the Tantive IV is the ship that delivers Padme Skywalker's body to her homeworld of Naboo and leaves it there, yet Darth Vader choked her on Naboo and her body was there as far as Darth Vader knows as well, what would happen to Bail Organa if the empire found out that Padme Skywalker had been given a funeral on Naboo after her body had been delivered to Naboo by his ship?

    Because surely Palpatine and Darth Vader would have had to find out eventually, because Palpatine still used Captain Panaka as his contact on Naboo, he even made him a Moff in the EU, and Panaka was the one who informed Palpatine of Skywalker and Padmes marriage as well, so if he calls up Emperor Palpatine on Coruscant and tells him that there was a funeral for Padme on Naboo then Palpatine could send Darth Vader to find out who delivered her body there, that would lead him to Bail Organa and by torturing Organa he could locate Obi-Wan and maybe even Yoda and find out about the twins.

    So Bail Organa could be forced to reveal this information if the Sith Lords ever found out about the funeral, surely Padme's body turning up on Naboo when it was supposedly left behind on Mustafar would be bad news, and Vader could be sent on the assumption that Obi-Wan brought it to Naboo also and demand to know what ship he was in and where he was going, either way it only brings trouble, Vader wouldnt ignore that, not if it meant possibly finding Obi-Wan or someone who helped him.
     
  2. rumsmuggler

    rumsmuggler Chosen One star 7

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    The Sith(Palps, at least) don't care about Padme. Anyways Palps wouldn't send Vader to her funeral because that's not Sith like and now that she is dead, Vader will sink further into the darkness and self hatred and hatred for his master as well.
     
  3. Ree

    Ree Jedi Master star 5

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    "Because surely Palpatine and Darth Vader would have had to find out eventually, because Palpatine still used Captain Panaka as his contact on Naboo, he even made him a Moff in the EU, and Panaka was the one who informed Palpatine of Skywalker and Padmes marriage as well"


    no way!! I had NO idea!! Hmph! A****le.

    But anyway. By then it doesn't matter i think. Carrying her body to her homeworld wouldn't mean that he was against him, or connected to a Rebel force. Besides which, if Palps is going to keep favour in the world he has to keep up a pretence of being fair. It's only right that a Senator gets a proper burial. If not she would have just 'disappeared' and that would look suspicious.
     
  4. Jedi Gunny

    Jedi Gunny Chosen One star 9

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    Rumsmuggler's right; Palpy didn't care about Padme, and even though Vader did, she 's dead. There's nothing out of the ordinary about Bail bringing her body to her home planet. Also, he went to the special session of the Seante; if he hadn't, then Bail might be suspicioned for conspiracy, but he didn't do anything out of the ordinary.
     
  5. Strilo

    Strilo Manager Emeritus star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    How do you know that Bail Organa's ship delivered her body to Naboo? We don't see it in the film. Perhaps Padme's own ship was used. Perhaps someone from Naboo was sent to rendezvous with the Tantive IV and return her body to Naboo. It's a huge assumption that Bail Organa did it.
     
  6. rumsmuggler

    rumsmuggler Chosen One star 7

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    Good point..
     
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  7. Joe_Garelli

    Joe_Garelli Jedi Master star 1

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    Yes but if Bail Organa came to Naboo with her body that raises some questions then, for instance how in the hell would Organa know about her being on Mustafar or Vader for that matter? Who told him about that? Why would he of all people have her body brought to Naboo? and when Vader was hurt there was nobody to bring her body back either, the empire didnt do that, i guess Vader could have assumed that Kenobi did it, that might make him ask the Naboo where Kenobi went after dropping her body off, it could be easy to track his presumed location after that for the Sith, and Organa might be questioned to.
     
  8. DarthApocalypse

    DarthApocalypse Jedi Youngling star 3

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    There are no questions to be raised, because it was never said that Bail Organa was the one who transported Padme's body.
     
  9. Darth_Davi

    Darth_Davi Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Ummm....are we forgetting that Obi-Wan left Mustafar? Obviously, Kenobi took Padme with him. This would be plainly obvious to Palpatine, and to Vader. Both Palpatine and Vader already know that Anakin, Kenobi, and Padme were all on Mustafar. Vader and Palpatine also already know that by the time Palpatine got there, Kenobi was gone. Even without actually seeing Kenobi take Padme, it is obvious that Kenobi would take her with him, to try to get help for her. That is what Jedi do. Palpatine and Vader would know this already.

    So, who cares if they notice Padme isn't on Mustafar anymore? Why should she still be on Mustafar, when everyone involved knows that Kenobi had the opportunity to take her with him, so he could try to get her help?
     
  10. voodoopuuduu

    voodoopuuduu Jedi Knight star 5

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    Ummm....are we forgetting that Obi-Wan left Mustafar? Obviously, Kenobi took Padme with him. This would be plainly obvious to Palpatine, and to Vader. Both Palpatine and Vader already know that Anakin, Kenobi, and Padme were all on Mustafar. Vader and Palpatine also already know that by the time Palpatine got there, Kenobi was gone. Even without actually seeing Kenobi take Padme, it is obvious that Kenobi would take her with him, to try to get help for her. That is what Jedi do. Palpatine and Vader would know this already.

    Yes, thats a given. And maybe some Mustafar worker told Palps that Kenobi left with Padme's DEAD body, who according to the worker, was killed by Anakin. That fits in perfectly with what Palps told Anakin.

    But the question remains, HOW did Padmes body get to Naboo ? I seriously doubt Yoda, Obi-Wan or Bail took her there, theyre smarter than that.

    Maybe in some unmarked, stolen, droid piloted ship ? Maybe by some anomymous Polis Massan, who flew the body and Padmes ship back to Naboo and left it by the Gungan swamp and then disappeared ?
     
  11. Darth_Davi

    Darth_Davi Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Why does it matter? Even if her body was delivered to Naboo by Tantive IV, so what? What does it say really? All it means is that after leaving Mustafar with Padme, or Padme's dead body, if you are Palpatine, is that Kenobi sought out a known friend of Padme. It does not imply that Bail Organa is working with the Jedi, nor does it imply that Kenobi and Bail have a friendship. Palpatine does not know that Yoda is hiding with Bail on that asteroid...if Palpatine suspected Bail Organa of being a traitor, wouldn't he have eliminated him sometime between ROTS and ANH? Just because Bail WAS a rebel doesn't mean Palpatine knew it. Bail was a perfectly logical choice for Kenobi to bring Padme's body to, before going into exile, from both the Jedi and Imperial perspective. Organa, for the time being, was above reproach in his loyalty to the Republic. Even with Order 66, and the "Jedi plot" made public by Palpatine's speech earlier, if questioned, Bail simply states that he was scared of Master Kenobi, and didn't dare confront him. Rather, he took Padme's body from him, and never saw Kenobi again. Bail Organa can bring Padme's body back to Naboo and not have it look suspicious.

    The ROTS script does say that it is an Alderaanian starcruiser, although, it would have made a lot more sense just to use Padme's ship, considering it was available...
     
  12. Darth_Davi

    Darth_Davi Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Apologies for the double post, but it was too late to edit my past post, and something occurred to me. (If a Mod chooses to add the text from this post to my previous one, and then delete this post, that would be fine.)

    Its not even a given that Palpatine and Vader knew that Obi-Wan took the Naboo cruiser to escape Mustafar. C3P0 came with Padme as well, and Vader brought R2D2. Between the two droids, they would have been capable of flying the ship by themselves. Vader and Palpatine both left Mustafar in Palpatine's shuttle, so, unless they specifically did a fly-by to ensure that the ship Vader took to Mustafar was right where he left it, they may have assumed that Kenobi took Vader's ship. It is unlikely that in their hurry, Palpatine would have made sure his pilot flew over where Vader landed, just to confirm which ship Kenobi escaped in, so if Bail brings the body back to Naboo, and says the two droids flew her body to him, who can prove him wrong?
     
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