CT Wullf Yularen is Joseph Stalin?

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  1. SWatB.com Jedi Youngling

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    Is there any information that Wullf Yularen is partly a motive of the Soviet revolutionary and political leader – Joseph Stalin?

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  2. Dread Pirate Roberts Jedi Padawan

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    'Revolutionary' and 'Political leader' are certainly kind ways to refer to Stalin.

    I've never come across any hint that Stalin inspired Yularen, or any other star wars characters. A lot of information we now have about Stalin was unknown until the 1990's when the Soviet Union fell.

    Also, I don't see any real similarities between Yularen and Stalin.
  3. SWatB.com Jedi Youngling

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    It is significant that "Lucasfilm" has a documentary to Lenin and Stalin, and they are also present in the "The Young Indiana Jones Chronicles".
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  4. MrMojoRisin Jedi Master

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    Huh? That's like saying that Obi-Wan has a passing resemblance to Mick Fleetwood, so obviously it's supposed to be him.
  5. Django Fett Jedi Master

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    I think when GL was casting ANH he just went for British actors who looked older and gave the Empire gravitas. May be in the retconning that's happened with TCW and Rebels he has taken on more megalomaniac characteristics but he's really only Mussolini's general.
  6. Iron_lord Force Ghost

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    Yularen doesn't really show any signs of megalomania in either TCW or Rebels.

    However, given that he's right near the top of the Imperial Security Bureau, and given that the ISB is akin to "Star Wars Gestapo" - comparisons to high-ranking Gestapo figures might work, in the present-day Star Wars-verse.
  7. Lt. Hija Jedi Master

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    @Dread Pirate Roberts wrote

    A lot of information we now have about Stalin was unknown until the 1990's when the Soviet Union fell.

    [face_hypnotized] Where did you get that from? Already in 1956 the Soviet Communist Party distanced itself from all the crimes committed under Stalin's reign. And you can be certain that the German Wehrmacht learned a lot about what had transpired in this country after they had invaded it.

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    Good catch, I didn't see the similarities in previous decades.

    And it really doesn't look like a coincidence, but rather like a deliberate allusion to Stalin to convey to audiences what kind of people we're seeing here during the Death Star conference. Considering that over 5 million souls died during Stalin's reign, the choice of a lookalike on a battle station that's designed to kill as many or more, is somewhat fitting (and just another example how much thought went into the making of ANH).

    Unfortunately in all these discussions of the Imperial uniforms, there is usually only talk about how the uniforms had been inspired by German Wehrmacht uniforms of WWII (which is correct in regard to Imperial trousers), but it's never mentioned that these also feature obvious design elements adopted from Soviet, Chinese and Japanese uniforms of WW II (in the latter case the Imperial regulation cap is so obviously a copycat of the Japanese regulation cap, that its almost embarrassing to have the need to point that out). ;)
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  8. Nibelung Jedi Padawan

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    Before the fall of the USSR, there were quite a lot of apologists for the Soviet Union, who denied that the crimes against humanity committed by the regime were anything other than capitalist propaganda. Some of these people were even respected eminent historians (eg, Eric Hobsbawm). However, other scholars (for instance, Robert Conquest) worked to substantiate the truth of the USSR's mass murders; and they were the ones who were proved right when the Wall fell and the Soviet archives came to light.

    Until 1989, though, if you were so inclined you could cherry-pick from even apparently trustworthy sources to deny that anything of the sort took place. Such is the insidiousness of propaganda.
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  9. SWatB.com Jedi Youngling

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    It is important that at first Stalin was a good - seminarian of the spiritual school, where he was taught to be a priest.
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