Amph X-Men Movies & TV - Discussion

hmm. Looking at one scene in the trailer, it looks like:

Spoiler

Trask did NOT prepare for Magneto. Magneto + Sentinel army = fun

 

I don't think either has been established. Interestingly those two movies are the ones Singer seems to cite frequently in interviews. I definitely got Terminator vibes from the future scenes in the second trailer (which I liked). And I know Singer has said he talked to Cameron about his ideas (specifically the time travel ones). However he's also said that he came up with his own set of rules that he stuck to. So, yeah, we don't know....

With respect to the idea of Nimrod (or someone else) having come back in time already in order to create the DoFP Apocalyptic future...I've wondered strongly about that since the bent bullet viral article. That article is supposed to be set in the present but it describes mutants in inhibitor collars and camps, and when it talks about Erik in prison it never mentions any escapes (it doesn't flat out say that he NEVER escaped, but it gives a general impression that he's sat in there for 50 years) --- these don't seem consistent with the previous movies.

 

What aspects do you mean? I think the suit is kinda silly so that can be changed, but if they make Apocalypse much like he is portrayed in the various animated shows I'll be happy & he'll be an effective villain

 

I want Clancy Brown as Apocalypse. I have no idea why.

 

Because you can't go wrong with the ******* Kurgan, that's why.

 

Brian Singer: Jim, how did you do time travel?

James Cameron: lol made it all up

I like Terminator rules because they're basically non-rules. Singer "consulting" on made up BS is just to get fan hype going.

 

So what exactly is "Terminator Rules". Self-fulfilling, alternate, immutable future timeline? I think that's always been the case with the comics' DOFP timeline.

 

To be fair, I do believe him when he says he talking to Cameron. IIRC he said he already had the ideas planned out, but he ran it by Cameron to ask if he thought it "made sense". Although IA that Terminator is inconsistent with it's own "rules" and asking Cameron for any advice is questionable. It probably went down more like:

Singer: Jim, does my time travel plan make sense?
Cameron: Heck if I know. Go talk to Harlan Ellison.

I think it's also possible that what Singer REALLY wanted to talk to Cameron about was cribbing a plot point or two, or perhaps some of the imagery.

 

I'm just starting to pay attention to this. Love the trailers (and the old comic). Just hope we get good BS and not the crappy one who made the Superman movie.

 

To be fair, Cameron didn't have any involvment in T3 and T4.

 

Terminator rules: don't let paradoxes get in the way of exciting action.

 

Bingo

 

Yep, it was a pretty awesome read.

 

Must...not...open...link!

 

Yep, officially more excited

 

No you bastich, I won't.

Seriously though, I read the original story decades ago. I figure I know the broad outline of the plot. But I have a nasty habit of spoiling myself rotten on stuff like this. In this one case though, I want to be surprised for something truly unexpected.

 

Without spoiling anything ('cause that's a dick move), I can just say I'll almost certainly be avoiding all spoiler articles after this one because this one's basically -- since you've read the original story -- confirming you're going to see what you thought you were going to see, except just how much of what you were expecting to see.

Also, it also totally now puts some other "cast news" over the last month or two in perfect context, imo.

 

Why the box office of the X-Men series weren't as high as the Marvel/Disney ones or the Spider-Man series?

 

Because Spider-Man is one of the most popular singular superhero properties ever?

And the X-Men movies compare favorably with the MCU movies except Iron Man because... Robert Downey, Jr.

 

X-Men movies also got very good actors, especially Hugh Jackman, Picard and Gandalf.

From what I heard, the X-Men comics were more popular than the Avengers overall, at least for a long while.

 

Fun fact: there are three Oscar-winning actors in X-Men and none of them are Patrick Stewart. Nor Jackman. Ensemble pieces are usually also fairly difficult to "open" a film as there's no one star, unless you do it like The Avengers and build up everyone first and still put RDJ primary...

I'm hopeful that DOFP can pull in some serious bank and be done well enough to erase the stink of The Last Stand to get proper X-Men films with more action (which, as much as I loved First Class was it's one critique)...