ST Incom T-70: X-Wings in the ST

....they "fly" because of repulsorlift. Do you know what that is? Is antigravity, speeders use repulsorlift to push away from the ground. They are super high tech hovercraft. This is why the Snowspeeders needed to open up flaps to make hard turns, cause they were basically just sliding through the air.

Old republic reason. We are no longer in the Old republic.
The X-wing repulsors are just strong enough for landings. The X-wing actually flies because of it's sublight engines and is stable flight, in part, because of the wings.

But, i guess, who cares.... new cannon.

 

I wouldn't get too bent out of shape about it. Almost no flying vehicles in Star Wars have an airfoil in their design, so no, it's not an Old Republic reason. It's pretty well established that tech in Star Wars works "just because," like EviL_eLF (and others in past posts) pointed out. And that is one of the simple joys that makes Star Wars great- not worrying about stuff like that. But I agree it can also be fun to discuss, as "what if" kinda questions.

One could argue that snowspeeders are a "lifting body" design- that's how they've always looked to me.

And while neither the OT nor ST X-Wing's S-foils function as airfoils, it wouldn't be hard to imagine them slightly changed to resemble the proportionally very small wings of a F-104 Starfighter.

Spoiler

 

Star Wars designs are used to elicit emotional responses and evoke thoughts of other things that might actually work while they themselves don't necessarily have to.

 

The cooling thing was some EU old republic thing.

Sorry, man, but SW had a tech side just like any other sci-fi and stuff was explained.
Star Wars has as many tech books out there as any other popular sci-fi.

Those wings are as wide as any other craft, they are just not as long.
The new X-wing splits that in half.
BTW, that was a crappy plane.

 

Star Wars film tech is never explained... any explanation you see in a book, is EU just for in universe physics, not real world physics.

 

It may not have been a very safe plane (without modifications) - but it served from 1958 to 2004 with some air forces - and had exceptionally impressive capabilities.

 

Lets not go to that level because we never see a lot of stuff happen on the screen so that means almost everything we see on screen is not actually what we are seeing on screen because we never got an actual explanation.

And this is a norm on pretty much everything in entertainment. Because, you know, there are not going to have episodes or movies just explaining the differences between a speeder and a starship or whatever tech exist in any other thing.

 

Regarding the wings - they are of a flat profile so do not supply lift at all. The most they would do is provide stability, if that.

 

Are we really arguing about the science of a series with wizard monks and lazer swords? Seriously.

 

Tell me you didn't get chills with the cockpit shot and new uniforms. As well as the surface flying. So happy the X wings have been resurrected.

 

The way they blew the surface of the lake was pure awesome. People cam nitpick all they want about the orange - teal coloring. Rebel pilots never looked this cool.

 

This is going to sound kneejerk(ish) but that 3-4 seconds is by far the best footage I have ever seen of an X-Wing.

 

The xwings deserves its place still in the movies.

 

They must have been making a ground assault cant wait to hear the s foils open fire & those proton torpedos, I think I will dig up my n64 from the basement & play rogue squadron.

 

Well either a ground assault or just a practice. Depends on where they are compared to where the base is.

 

Sorry playing a barkhesh mission whatever the xwings were flying to it's a gonna.

 

err what?

 

Playing game with one hand typing with the other Im met the base is gone destroyed sorry just shot down four tie fighters will the millennium falcon.

 

I might agree with you with a possible exception of when I first seen SW as a kid. Those X-Wings rocked my little kid world. However, I haven't had anything close to that with X-Wings since….until yesterday.

 

I keep watching it over and over for the X-wings and Millenium Falcon... the latter is a bit too zoomed in and has the J.J. signature lens flare, but WHOA NELLY does it make for an exciting feeling of motion!!

 

Its a thread about a machine and we should not talk about THE machine?

 

I still maintain the worst thing to happen to sci-fi was when we actually went into space. Everything became so generic and bogged down in real world science and technology, that's why Star Wars to me stands head and shoulders above all else in terms of design.

 

I'm not saying I don't like it but the wings maybe look a bit skinny now when they're open. Apart from simply looking different to the old X-wings, I don't know what you'd gain by having that type of 'half' wing. I guess there's less chance of the wing being shot though?

Also, when I saw the trailer I noticed the writing on the pilot's chest but could only make out part of it. Listening to Rebel Force Radio they say it says 'pull to inflate' which makes sense. It may not be significant, but they are over water so if they're in battle and have to bail out, maybe the pilots need some kind of life preserver. I wonder if it would be just a life jacket, or if they have something like in The Clone Wars where the pilot was enveloped in a big inflatable ball to protect them when ejecting? They probably won't do that though since I think that was more of a whole ejector seat type thing.

One thing that could be interesting in the ST is if they show someone eject from a fighter in space. They talk about that in ANH but no one does it, nor is it explained how you would do it and survive to be picked up.

 

The lone x-wing shot pwnwd every other one in the saga.

 

That's a really good point. I'd like to see that, too! ANH always had me wondering about that.

I remember an ARC-170 getting destroyed early on in the opening scene of RotS. We see at least two clones floating free after the ship is basically disintegrated. However, it appears that clone pilot helmets (at least as depicted in RotS) are open, a la Rebel pilot helmets in the OT, so I doubt they survived long in space. Compare this to TIE fighter pilot helmets/suits, which are self-contained (sealed) life-support systems. Hmm...