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[YJCC] Moderator Coverage

Discussion in 'Communications' started by Dark_Lady_Jada, Sep 14, 2005.

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  1. droideka27

    droideka27 Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    i agree. let's start a petition!!!!! :p

    EDIT: and by n00b i meant "jcc n00b"
     
  2. DVeditor

    DVeditor Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    [blockquote][hl=Navy] droideka27[/hl] posted on 4/14/05 9:00pm[hr] by n00b i meant "jcc n00b" [hr][/blockquote] Sad but true. :-B

     
  3. Coruscant

    Coruscant Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    Noooo! Don't remove the Y from YJCC! :(

    Me no likey change. *throws fit* :p

     
  4. Kavic_Toth

    Kavic_Toth Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I'm certainly not calling anyone out, nor do I mean to put pressure on anyone, as I know my case is a little more unique right now, and I have more time available online than most on the majority of days.

    That said, the bulk of my online time is anywhere from 11PM to 5AM EST, and from from 8AM EST to whenever. There have been, on a couple of occasions, days that I literally stayed on overnight. Being on from 7AM EST until whenever is not so much an issue for me, as by that time, I already have my eldest off and can give some attention to the forums. What has messed up my 'schedule', in places, is that I've given up sleep here or there to make sure the forum was Mod covered.

    As I said, I'm just putting what I've been doing out there so it can be factored into the larger discussion, not calling anyone out on times or anything.
     
  5. Dark_Lady_Jada

    Dark_Lady_Jada Jedi Knight star 5

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    Kavic you've already had two calling out threads on your colors. Stop trying to stir up the drama. Just cause E_V wants more drama in Comms . . .

    Oh wait . . . :p
     
  6. HawkNC

    HawkNC Former RSA: Oceania star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Kavic: I appreciate you being a presence over the nights I'm not able to make it online. I've been getting online more often lately (due to a shiny new laptop [face_dancing]) and, as my living arrangements change soon, I should be online enough that you'll rarely, if ever, have to worry about it. :) I certainly wouldn't expect you to stay on overnight, and most times I do hae access to a computer and checking JCC even if I'm not logged in.
     
  7. -Lord-Vader-

    -Lord-Vader- Jedi Knight star 5

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    I also had to PM an out-of-board mod yesterday or the day before because the lack of online JCC mods.
     
  8. TheBoogieMan

    TheBoogieMan Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I have also noticed a lack of mods on the occasions that I am on.

    However, this is probably because, as Hawk says, he's been busy for a little bit and as we are in the same city I am on when he'd usually be on. But I don't think it is a real biggie because although there has been a conspicuous absense of JCC mods, usually Mastadge or DVEditor or someone is around to give a modly presence.
     
  9. Kavic_Toth

    Kavic_Toth Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Exactly, TBM. Covering any one forum 24/7 is nigh on impossible without upping a lot of people, and that usually becomes too many hands in the cookie jar.

    And Hawk, s'okay. I don't mind at all, I was just pointing out the times I know of that I've been covering. I've also noticed that when I'm on around the hours of 4-6PM EST that there seems to be a lack of coverage here and there, too. I attributed a lot of that to travel times (work, etc) and dinner times and whatnot.

    I think it's a lot more noticeable in JCC because of the speed of the board. Watching over WNU for Daniel while he's on vacation, I can spend two hours every day in that forum, and it's MORE than enough to take care of any issues. There's no way one Mod could do that in JCC and not have literally thousands of problems with trolls and flames and the like.

    It also does not help that the less desirable element to the JCC waits for those openings when there is not a JCC Mod directly on to try and make life miserable for everyone.
     
  10. rhonderoo

    rhonderoo Former Head Admin star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    As a frequent poster in the JCC, like Mastadge, TwilekJedi, and others, I certainly don't mind being PMed if someone needs me. I think any small lapse of time when there isn't a JCC mod on, any mod would be willing to help out. That's what we're here for. :)
     
  11. Darth_Ignant

    Darth_Ignant Jedi Youngling star 7

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    The coverage is fine. And when the dedicated YJCC mods are not around, there are other mods around who are more than capable of doing general housekeeping, like dealing with flames. It isn't like the JC crashes and burns during these periods, it ticks along as usual. This is merely a fuss over nothing.
     
  12. malkieD2

    malkieD2 Ex-Manager and RSA star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Things just haven't been the same since that cute Scottish guy left.

    As other have said, seeing that the JCC is the social forum, it does get frequented by a great number of external mods on a regular basis. I can't speak for the for JCC Mods, but I had no problem with a mod from another forum dealing with any obvious issues in my absence.

    We have a 'log' thread in the MS where we post what we've done in other Mods forums.
     
  13. TwiLekJedi

    TwiLekJedi Pretty Ex-Mod star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    hey, wait, how did I get dragged into this mess? :p

    I'd mod a lot more if in return I wouldn't have to deal with the pseudo-drama, whining and calls for unfairness or wrong territorial modding :rolleyes:

    But then again, most of the problems arise in the stupid threads that I don't read anyway. I just read JCC for the harmless random fun.


    or, instead of making a fuss about coverage holes, people could, for a change, not break any rules! now there's a novel idea :p
     
  14. beafet

    beafet Jedi Knight star 5

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    I too have had to PM non-JCC mods, several times. And it has been before this past week.

    [face_plain]
     
  15. Dark_Lady_Jada

    Dark_Lady_Jada Jedi Knight star 5

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    I'm seeing a few things come from this discussion:

    1) Users are saying they have noticed the holes in coverage and have had to PM non-YJCC mods. This is not an issue that is isolated and has happened before this week.

    2) There are moderators out there that have no problem modding the YJCC (but would appreciate not getting the "you modded outside your forum" rap).

    3) Some former mods and other folks feel that the YJCC best operates with 5 moderators while others think 4 is enough.

    It seems that there needs to be a list of mods (preferably in a sticky) that will act in the YJCC if need be (similar to the "spoiled" mod list for 3SA) and it should be looked at as to whether or not a 5th moderator should be added.
     
  16. YodaJeff

    YodaJeff Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I don't think a list of other mods is really needed. It was necessary in 3SA to avoid spoiling mods who wanted to go spoiler-free. Besides, most JCC regulars should know which non-JCC mods are also JCC regulars.

    If it's something that is blatant (porn, etc), PMing any online mod should suffice. If it's somewhat of a judgement call, I don't think it'll hurt to let it sit for an hour until a JCC mod is online.

    Regardless of how many mods you have in a forum, there still will be gaps in coverage. 3SA had a half-dozen mods and there still were gaps in coverage.
     
  17. Darth_Ignant

    Darth_Ignant Jedi Youngling star 7

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    Yes, sticky threads are really effective.

    The solution is simple, and avoids adding yet another sticky thread, thus avoiding a glut.

    You check to see if any JC mods are on.

    If not, you go to the users online list. Find a mod online and PM them with the issue. The only stuff that can't wait is trolling or a discussion that's got out of hand. This can be easily remedied by any mod. Things whch are more grey, like a new game popping up, or a thread becoming a social thread can wait if no JC mod is on.
     
  18. Everton

    Everton Force Ghost star 10

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    So we're agreed. Something, or maybe nothing, has, or has not, got, or not got, to be, or not, done, or not done.
     
  19. beafet

    beafet Jedi Knight star 5

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    QFT

    [Mugatu]He's absolutely right.[/Mugatu]

    [face_plain]
     
  20. droideka27

    droideka27 Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    If it's something that is blatant (porn, etc), PMing any online mod should suffice. If it's somewhat of a judgement call, I don't think it'll hurt to let it sit for an hour until a JCC mod is online.

    Regardless of how many mods you have in a forum, there still will be gaps in coverage. 3SA had a half-dozen mods and there still were gaps in coverage.


    Agreed. And my comment about 5 mods was NOT meant to mean that the 4 we have now aren't providing good coverage. 4 mods that are on for over 6 hours a day provides excellent coverage. We all have lives, and things come up... JCC is never ever going to be covered 24/7. But Jeff is right... any big issues PLEASE pm ANY mod online. FOr smaller judgement calls, leave it, and PM a JCC mod.
     
  21. Alethia

    Alethia Jedi Master star 5

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    I'll use now as an example. Apparently mods are online. Yet there are a number of threads now about skin color and other stuff that are just repetitive and pointless. They've been there for awhile now, yet nothing is being done about them.

    I'm sure the mods are just busy, which is fine with me. But there are times like this when another mod would be handy. Occurences like this do seem to pop up fairly frequently- and have been for awhile. If we're just supposed to wait- that's fine. But having four different threads on skin color, each with the title 'Hey, I'm white/black/neon/skin colored' and that being it for content- well, while it's not flaming or anything that needs to be fixed right away, it would be nice to get them dealt with.

    In other words, I do feel that a fifth mod might be helpful. Or a list of mods who are 'unofficial' JCC mods, ie, they mod somewhere else, but frequent the JCC and should be extempt to the usual 'hey, you're not a JCC mod, so why are you modding here' complaints.

    Just having...something done would be nice.

     
  22. malkieD2

    malkieD2 Ex-Manager and RSA star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    In other words, I do feel that a fifth mod might be helpful. Or a list of mods who are 'unofficial' JCC mods, ie, they mod somewhere else, but frequent the JCC and should be extempt to the usual 'hey, you're not a JCC mod, so why are you modding here' complaints.

    ALL mods are available to mod the JCC - a list would be pointless.

    We worked well when it was myself, dashy, kate and nashira - and that was four mods (or was it three?).

    Holes appear because no matter how many mods you have covering a forum - even when there were 8 or whatever mods in the 3SA there were still a few of us who frequently modded 3SA post ROTS release.

    I don't understand *why* anyone would complain about a non-JCC mod removing something obvious from the JCC. Anything borderline can be removed, and the mod who does can clearly state "I'm removing this, but if I'm wrong a JCC mod can rectify the mistake when they arrive".

    If it's something that's just against policy - ie 4 threads by the same user or a redundant thread, I could understand a non-JCC mod being concerned about moderating it - however things like that don't really damage the forum as badly as a spam session of porn pictures.
     
  23. Alethia

    Alethia Jedi Master star 5

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    True- it's nothing major. Just sort of annoying.

    I don't understand *why* anyone would complain about a non-JCC mod removing something obvious from the JCC

    To tell the truth, I don't either. But it seemed as if that was a concern earlier in this thread, so I addressed it. If four mods works, fine with me. But it does seem that this problem of not having a mod around isn't just something that popped up the last few days.
     
  24. YodaJeff

    YodaJeff Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Threads like the "I'm neon" one are harmless enough to leave until a JCC mod can sign on and lock it.
     
  25. UK Sullustian

    UK Sullustian Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I dislike Star Wars. Dislike the Membership. Dislike the JCC. And I have no time to spend on such a frivolous job.

    I'd make the perfect mod.

    UKS

    P.S I am also a Holocaust Denier - making me perfect for those difficult threads in the Senate.

    P.P.S I meant to say I am a Holocaust Diner - Nothing like a dose of Genocide for breakfast!
     
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