"Yo Joe!" G.I. Joe Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Archive: SF&F: Films and Television' started by Quiet_Mandalorian, Jan 31, 2009.

  1. The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth

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    Well, that's what made him super evil- but as soon as he saw the monitor feeds of the nanite data and of the horrific experiments being performed by Mindbender, he instantly was in evil-love with them.

    "Oh look- people being horrifically experimented upon in inhumane ways by a crazy scientist...they're beeeautifullll..." is not the reaction of a good person.


    On anotehr note related to the nanites- was anyone else perplexed at Destros' reaction to his nanite mask? After it first goes on, his initial reaction is pride at fulfilling his family's legacy- then his next immediate sentence is a reaction of horror and revulsion in a "what have you doen to me?!" way. That was just confusing- it was like they wrote two different reactions for that moment to use as alternate takes of the same line, and then just decided to string them back to back, logic be damned.
  2. GenAntilles Jedi Grand Master

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    I don't think it was pride, he was probably thinking, "Gee I kept that mask to warn me of the danger of what I do and end up wearing one myself, what cruel irony."

    Saw it again tonight and the theatre was even more crowded than when I saw it last week on it's opening day. Everyone walking out seemed to enjoy it too. :)

    This bodes well for a sequel.
  3. Black-Tiger Jedi Youngling

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    Yes, I saw that contradiction too.
  4. Koohii Jedi Master

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    I got "Ah, the Pain is gone" followed by "What the hell?"
  5. Rebel_Padawan Jedi Master

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    On the whole I agree with this, though I enjoyed all of the jokes and I don't think the romance was over played at all.

    IMO, I think the only reason this movie didn't bomb is because it felt as though it was an animated cartoon that just happened to be 'live-action' instead.

    Also an interesting side note. One of the previews before the film was another Channing Tatum flick 'Fighter'. In the preview it showed him doing some crazy move where he wrapped his legs around an opponent which brought him to the ground. During the training scenes in G.I.Joe with Brendan Fraser in the background as he is facing Snake Eyes, Tatum does the exact same move.
  6. Kimball_Kinnison Jedi Grand Master

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    Well, my fiancée, her sister, and I all went to see it last night. As my fiancée said, it had bad writing and bad acting, but lots of really good explosions. Overall, we all enjoyed it as typical "Bubblegum for the Mind".

    Some parts of it were really quite effective. For example, the Rex Lewis/Cobra Commander parts worked very well (especially with the misdirection relating to Dr. Mindbender). We all especially enjoyed Christopher Eccleston's performance as McCullen/Destro.

    Dennis Quaid was probably the worst part, because of how he was constantly hamming it up. Of course, the script didn't exactly give him that much to work with, but why does he always have to look like he's smiling or smirking when he has so many soldiers in the middle of a massive battle, many of whom won't be returning alive?

    The romance angles fell somewhat flat. For one thing, my fiancée was somewhat confused by the Scarlett/Ripcord bit, because she always thought that Scarlett and Duke were a couple (having only been exposed to the cartoon). The Duke/Baroness part went better, but also didn't flow quite right.

    Overall, the action was well done, and even some of the humor worked pretty well. Yes, there were some overly obvious references to the cartoon ("Knowing is half the battle"), but almost every property that moves to the big screen does those (such as X-Men's "What would you prefer, yellow spandex?" or Transformers' "More than meets the eye" references).

    All in all, it was a fun movie that you didn't want to or have to think too hard about, just sit back and enjoy the ride.

    Kimball Kinnison
  7. Black-Tiger Jedi Youngling

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    I think the tragic thing is that the cartoon seems to be taking over the franchise and that the figures (i.e. their file cards) and the comic books have almost been totally forgotten.
  8. TIEPilot051999 Jedi Master

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    I guess it's a good thing that IDW is reprinting the original Marvel comics, then.
  9. JediMasterGuff Jedi Master

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    Oh dear Lord, really???
  10. Black-Tiger Jedi Youngling

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    Then hopefully the film makers will have a good read of them before they make the next movie.
  11. Kimball_Kinnison Jedi Grand Master

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    My fiancée and her sister grew up in the UK for a while, and I have long been a Doctor Who fan. We all enjoy Eccleston's style of acting.

    Kimball Kinnison
  12. The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth

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    I liked Christopher as well. He lacks the gruff barotone of the cartoon, vocally, but he passes better as a buisness man/public weapons dealer.
  13. JediMasterGuff Jedi Master

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    It was the accent that threw me off. Living in Scotland all my life, I've never heard anyone speak like it.
  14. Black-Tiger Jedi Youngling

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    Yeah, it was off. I've yet to hear a Scottish person talk like that either. But being a half decent English actor he should've been able to do a much better Scottish accent.
  15. The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth

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    Then again I'm usually not that picky about accents. Hell, I didn't even realize Destro was scottish until I started reading the modern comics earlier this decade- due to the way the voice was, it came across as something more eastern european like the baroness, like a typical, deep, dracula accent. I can hear the scottish part now, though.
  16. RK_Striker_JK_5 Jedi Master

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    I'm not sure if I'm ever gonna see the lA movie or not... but [link=http://superherohype.com/news/gijoenews.php?id=8605&offset=25]this[/link] is how it should've been done. ;)
  17. The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth

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    That's amazing, hilarious, almost touching..and far, far better than the live action movie [face_laugh]
  18. Black-Tiger Jedi Youngling

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    Julianne Moore playing Scarlett?:confused:
  19. Koohii Jedi Master

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    That was frickin' hillarious. And much, much better in almost every way to the movie.
    Why not put these people in charge of the sequel?
    C'Mon, they couldn't make it any worse.

    I'd also like to see the guy who did the Grayson fanfilm in charge of the next Batman movie. Or even the justice league movie.
  20. Raven Administrator Emeritus

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    After the Dark Knight, I think that the current crew have a pretty good thing going. Just saying.
  21. RK_Striker_JK_5 Jedi Master

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    Three best parts for me were...

    1. Zartan looking in the mirror. "Who is the real me?"

    2. CC being a fan of 70's boogie. If you think about it, concerning his marvel origin as a used car salesman from the 70's... [face_laugh]

    3. Mindbender and Gung-Ho being HAM radio buddies while mot even knowing who the other one was.
  22. saturn5 Jedi Padawan

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    Both read the comics and collected the figures as a kid, peferred the old Red Shadows to Cobra though.
    The movie? Fun but dumb, you can certainly see the influence of Transformers. And why is it that all the male characters are dressed like normal soldiers whilst all the female (Scarlet, Baroness) are dressed like PVC clad pornstar?
  23. Koohii Jedi Master

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    There was one woman in a normal outfit: CoverGirl. Look where that got her!

    As my brother pointed out, it isn't often that the parody comes out before the source. See Team America World Police.
  24. The_Smirking_Revenge Jedi Youngling

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    Saw the flick, so glad I didn't waste any money on that. It was Street Fighter all over again. Bad dialog, too much CGI, weak story with more plot holes than the moon has craters, and a pathetic attempt at character development. Sure, it was mildly entertaining, in a "let's ride this train into the ground just to see how bad it can get" sorta way, but overall a terrible movie...unless you're between the ages of 3-13. Even then, I'd have trouble recommending it.

    On a side note, here's a fun fact: Did you know that Team America was originally intended to be a marionette version of Armageddon, but Bay wouldn't sign off..?

    -T_S_R
  25. Jedi_Keiran_Halcyon Jedi Knight

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    I'm pretty sure it was The Day After Tomorrow, not Armageddon.

    I RedBoxed this movie on a whim. And yeah, I flashed back to Team America a lot - especially the entire Paris section.

    But I must confess that there were a number of times that I found my self enjoying the ridiculousness of it all, much like Van Helsing.

    If nothing else, I give the movie props for making Marlon Wayans's character more than just a wisecracking black sidekick. It was nice to see a black actor whose name isn't Will Smith allowed to get the girl and save the day in a summer action flick for once.

    Above and beyond any issues of filmmaking quality or coherence, my number one problem with the film is the same problem I have with nearly every franchise starter/restarter movie in the last decade: they don't get to the franchise status quo until the very end of the movie.

    Raiders of the Lost Ark doesn't start out with Indy's origin story. We don't get that until three films in, and even then it only lasts about ten minutes. Everything we need to know about the character we learn by seeing him in action or through quick-and-painless exposition.

    Character background is called that for a reason.

    I'm tired of watching these franchise movies only to get to an ending that leaves me thinking, "Okay, so the REAL story starts in the next film?"

    I used to walk out of movies and want to walk right back in to see that SAME MOVIE again. I miss that feeling, and I'm tired of it being drowned out by the feeling that the NEXT one is going to be what I wanted THIS one to be.