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Yoda and the Dark Jedi on Degobah...

Discussion in 'Literature' started by sithmonkey75, Apr 15, 2004.

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  1. sithmonkey75

    sithmonkey75 Jedi Youngling star 1

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    i thought i read that the cave on degobah was created when yoda defated an old dark jedi with white hair that was sent by the emporer to hunt yoda. who was he? C'boath? Dooku? puzzling...and will it be in episode 3? i doubt it, but still a relevant question. oh, and i hope i'm not repeating a topic...
     
  2. NeoStar9

    NeoStar9 Jedi Master star 4

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    Doubt it will be in episode 3. Isn't this a EU created event and not something that came from Lucas? Also wouldn't it have already have happen years before events during the TPM?
     
  3. Mark_Maul

    Mark_Maul Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Despite their infinities label, Star Wars Tales offers a really good explanation. Basically, the conflict took place hundreds of years ago, when Yoda was a padawan himself. He was the lone survivor of a battle with a dark Jedi, and tracked the offender to Dagobah for a final showdown. It's probably the only explanation we'll ever get as to why Yoda chose Dagobah as a hiding place. It also explains that "Minch" was his padawan nickname.
     
  4. jawajames

    jawajames Former RSA // stawars.com contributor star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA VIP

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    as exciting as the Minch story in tales was (and non-continuity), there is also the more recent showdown between Yoda and the Bpfasshi Dark Jedi at the site of the cave and was witnesses by Jorj Car'das, who had been kidnapped by the Bpfassh, and later healed by Yoda. This encounter also left behind the beckon call that Luke finds in the Thrawn trilogy, prompting Artoo to send him to see Lando.


    ps. is there something in the air this month that forces people to misspell things in the thread titles?
    Dagobah!
     
  5. JediTrilobite

    JediTrilobite Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    i thought i read that the cave on degobah was created when yoda defated an old dark jedi with white hair that was sent by the emporer to hunt yoda. who was he? C'boath? Dooku? puzzling...and will it be in episode 3? i doubt it, but still a relevant question. oh, and i hope i'm not repeating a topic...

    C'boath was not that Jedi. He was on another planet, or the clone was, the original had died a while ago. That Jedi was from another planet, and Yoda was tracking him. Some of the events are recounted in the Hand of Thrawn Duology.
     
  6. cthulhu-spawn

    cthulhu-spawn Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Indeed, this Dark Jedi was Bpfasshi, a race of people who suffer from a deficiency in vowels which often leads to insanity on their parts.
     
  7. JediTrilobite

    JediTrilobite Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    lol. Yeah, that was the race.
     
  8. Pellaeon-Firke

    Pellaeon-Firke Jedi Knight star 5

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    lol indeed. If you read HoT and Car'das's account, it would be a movie in itself. As opposed to a 20-minute saber / force fight, it went on (IIRC) for 2 FREAKING DAYS (no flaming intended, just going for emphasis). It could be that both Tales and the Dark Jedi are correct; that's why the Aura is unusually strong, and why the Disciples of Ragnos went for it first.


    I was under the impression that the Dark Jedi was not a Bpfasshi, but a Jedi who went loony on the Bpfasshi, which is why the sector doesn't like Jedi.
     
  9. Leto II

    Leto II Jedi Padawan star 6

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    I, for one, would have something of a Major Problem with *two* different Yoda-types confronting *two* different Dark Jedi on *two* different occasions on the very same identical patch of swamp.

    It was an interesting enough story (one of the better ones in that issue), but the sheer concatenation of coincidences that this brings up makes the whole point one of such pure ludicrosity that it may as well be elided.

    Apart from which, "Minch" and Yoda being one and the same contradicts The Empire Strikes Back. Yoda was a full-on Jedi Master one hundred years *prior* to this story, whereas "Minch" from the story is a mere hotheaded apprentice, replete with plait.

    Ain't a bad tale, but it falls under the "Journal of the Whills" rubric.
     
  10. PadmeA_Panties

    PadmeA_Panties Jedi Youngling star 4

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    Its just one of the many cases in which Zahn uses like 40 different things to weave into the SW galaxy to make it his own. Interesting how Jorj Ca'das ends up everywhere? How, his storylines encompass like 12 different centuries? How he has 6 books with another soon upcoming, etc.

    Ugh. I couldn't stand Survivor's Quest and how it had so many plotholes in it, and I'm not exactly eagerly waiting for the Outbound book.

    Agh, sorry to get OT.
     
  11. Valiento

    Valiento Jedi Knight star 7

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    "Ain't a bad tale, but it falls under the "Journal of the Whills" rubric."

    What do you mean by that, exactly?

    According to the ANH novel, and WEG Movie Trilogy sourcebooks the "Whills" are the ones chronicling the history (...and compiling together other historians works), and are the ones that came up with the scrolling text in the films.

    "Journal of the Whills" is not an infinities concept, but rather a canon one. Where as the Minch story is infinities, and non-canon. They shouldn't be compared with each other.
     
  12. Leto II

    Leto II Jedi Padawan star 6

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    (Think I might've gotten misinterpreted slightly, there.)

    Only meant it in the sense of an impromptu, nonchalant, offhand descriptor of peculiarity -- casually tossing the "Whills" reference around, since we don't truly know much of anything about them.

    Nothing seriously meant, in other words.

    One of those Star Wars stories that don't fit into the continuity in any appreciable sense, and which I now stack alongside the "Car'das" story as one possible fuzzy mythological "variation" on what could've happened on Dagobah, the same as with all other conflicting accounts...looking upon on it as a misty, distorted batch of legends-cum-quasi-herstories from "a long time ago, in a galaxy etc. etc. etc."
     
  13. Excellence

    Excellence Jedi Knight star 7

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    C'baoth was aboard the Outbound Flight Project, which happened way before the Clone Wars ever started.

    He had a cameo in Cloak of Deception. Cheap, but cool.
     
  14. Master_Cilghal

    Master_Cilghal Jedi Youngling

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    it was not c'boath he died in corusant's orbit SPOILER EDITED
     
  15. Excellence

    Excellence Jedi Knight star 7

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    That Episode 3 spoiler is not pertinent here. Better edit it out if you can.

    On the topic, how is Bpfasshi pronounced, Ber-fass-hi?
     
  16. JediTrilobite

    JediTrilobite Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    That's how I've pronounced it before.
     
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