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CT Yoda - Assumed Dead?

Discussion in 'Classic Trilogy' started by SlashMan, Dec 8, 2013.

  1. dolphin

    dolphin Chosen One star 5

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    Saw the Yoda death scene yesterday and noticed that after he died the light in his hovel went out, apparently by itself (as Luke looked on from outside). Did time just pass and Luke happened to witness the last of the candle go out or did it have something to do with he Force/Magic Tree, etc.?
     
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  2. jakobitis89

    jakobitis89 Jedi Master star 4

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    Symbolic symbolism is symbolic would be my guess. Why the light actually went out is not the point, it going out when Yoda died is the entire point in itself.
     
  3. Samuel Vimes

    Samuel Vimes Force Ghost star 4

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    One issue that I have thought about.

    IN ESB, both Vader and Palpatine can sense Luke from light years away and he is causing a great disturbance in the Force.

    From the film, I gathered that this was a new development and why Palpatine contacted Vader, they had a NEW enemy.

    So they are able to sense Luke getting stronger in the Force.
    But they also know that Obi-Wan has been dead for three years and thus is unable to train Luke any further.
    And during ANH or before, did either of them sense anything?
    No.

    So if they think that Obi-Wan is the only who trained Luke, that apparently didn't cause any disturbances in the Force.
    And for three years there after, with Luke on his own, that did not cause anything either.
    So why now all of a sudden?

    I think it would not be unreasonable for them to consider the idea that Luke is trained by another Jedi.
    And since Yoda is still unaccounted for, he would be a likely suspect.
    Obi-Wan managed to evade them for almost twenty years, why can't Yoda?

    Bye for now.
    Old Stoneface
     
  4. darth-sinister

    darth-sinister Manager Emeritus star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Because Yoda is older than Obi-wan and would be more likely to have died, than Obi-wan. Palpatine and Tarkin both thought Obi-wan was dead, but Vader didn't. They believe that Luke had some training from Obi-wan and then just worked hard on his own. Hell, Vader even assumed that Ahsoka was dead and she was no longer part of the Jedi Order when Order 66 came down.
     
  5. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett Chosen One star 10

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    The Emperor new he was still alive at the end of ROTS so he must have assumed he still lived.
     
  6. darth-sinister

    darth-sinister Manager Emeritus star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    There's twenty three years in between trilogies. Yoda was 877 years old when he went to Dagobah for the final time.
     
  7. jaqen

    jaqen Chosen One star 5

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    The conversations between Lucas and Kasdan about the nature of Yoda are irrelevant if they didn't make it into the film, or worse yet, contradict what did.

    Yoda is called a "Jedi Master" from the very first introduction of the character in TESB. He is never portrayed as some kind of non-Jedi guru who just happens to train Jedi here and there.

    His is "the Jedi Master" who trained Obi-Wan, and will train Luke. In ROTJ he makes it crystal clear that after he dies THEN the last of the Jedi Luke will be.

    The films also never suggest he can't fight. He simply doesn't fight. But since Obi-Wan fights, and Yoda was the Jedi Master who taught him, the natural inference is that Yoda, like all Jedi/former-Jedi we see, has, and can, use a lightsaber.