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Yoda ep3 new model WIP

Discussion in 'Scifi 3D Forum' started by Roy, Jul 16, 2007.

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  1. Roy

    Roy Jedi Youngling

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    [hl=black][/hl]Hello i started modeling of master Yoda

    Modeling:Zbrush3
    Texturing,Rendering,Lighting:Cinema 4D
    finishing (multipass):After Effects
    What do you think?
    [image=http://roysite.own.cz/YodaEp3s.png]
    [image=http://roysite.own.cz/Zbrush.BMP]

    i am looking forward on comments

    p.s. :excuse my english
     
  2. CaptSparrow

    CaptSparrow Jedi Padawan star 4

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    It looks like the face is too stretched, it you squash the face, it might look more like Yoda.
     
  3. JMaster Luke

    JMaster Luke Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    That first one looks very nice. Not like Yoda, but more like a 300 year old version of Yoda's species. Looks good though as a model.
     
  4. darthviper107

    darthviper107 Jedi Master star 4

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    It looks like a monkey. But nice. Too far from Yoda though.
     
  5. Roy

    Roy Jedi Youngling

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    Some updates:

    [image=http://roysite.own.cz/wip/Yodanew.jpg]

    and this one
    [image=http://roysite.own.cz/wip/Yodanewest.jpg]

    in zbrush it really looks like Yoda but i need Zmapper to export model and displacement map do C4D - there is a render from Zbrush
    http://roysite.own.cz/wip/YodaZbrush.mov


    any comments to shader,lighting rendering?
     
  6. JMaster Luke

    JMaster Luke Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Man the skin detail is amazing. Again it doesn't look like Yoda, but like someone of his specie, but it looks good. Have you taken a picture of Yoda and put it side by side with your photo? That should help.
     
  7. Roy

    Roy Jedi Youngling

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    I have problem with ears and eyes
    do you have some good ref photos?I have only screens from film
     
  8. Roy

    Roy Jedi Youngling

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    SOME UPDATES :D

    [image=http://roysite.own.cz/wip/zbrushref.JPG]

    that looks better or not?

    and there is render from cinema4d

    [image=http://roysite.own.cz/wip/c4d.jpg] -only head is 3d :D
     
  9. CaptSparrow

    CaptSparrow Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Starting to look more like him, it's something about the eyes and the mouth that make him look different. The shaders are amazing, a lot of detail there. Wish I could make something like that!
    Keep up the awesome work.
     
  10. JMaster Luke

    JMaster Luke Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    oh yeah these are starting to look alot better. Thats pretty cool your getting there!
     
  11. Roy

    Roy Jedi Youngling

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    I have some updates
    borrowed body from scifi3d models of yoda

    [image=http://roysite.own.cz/wip/Yoda.jpg]
    [image=http://roysite.own.cz/wip/Yoda2.jpg]
     
  12. Roy

    Roy Jedi Youngling

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    last reply: its rendered using multipass - ambient occlusion,speculary and rgb
    rendering time : 30 minutes


    and something new:

    composition from rendered head and screen of film
    rendering time:3 minutes
    mutlipass AO,RGB + specular

    composited in Adobe After Effects
    [image=http://roysite.own.cz/wip/comp.jpg]
     
  13. JMaster Luke

    JMaster Luke Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Somethings not right with the eyes....he has that blind dog eyes to me. As if Yoda can't see. Its really close the over all look. I'm not sure if the skin color is alittle off, but its getting closer.
     
  14. Roy

    Roy Jedi Youngling

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    in Zbrush it seems like a Yoda but im still waiting for Zmapper to export displacement map to c4d
     
  15. BruceM

    BruceM Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I dont really think that the texture is most of the problem. I think it could be the mesh as well. He looks like a really grumpy Yoda, not like the peaceful Yoda we know. The cheeks sag too low. Try making that v-shaped indention above his eyes a little smoother. It is also possible that it could be from when you transferred the model to c4d. I know that when I open models in blender from when I used to use anim8or, it is almost horrible. Try showing a render form Zbrush.
    Bruce
     
  16. Roy

    Roy Jedi Youngling

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    http://roysite.own.cz/wip/YodaZbrush.mov
    there is Zbrush render
     
  17. BruceM

    BruceM Jedi Padawan star 4

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    ya, that looks more like him. But I still think the cheeks are the problem. They make him look waaayyy older than ep3 Yoda, so I would do something their.
    Bruce
     
  18. dvdcdr

    dvdcdr Jedi Knight star 3

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    Looks nice. Did you show it on ZBrush Central?

    I agree though that the cheeks are too low, makes him look lke a bulldog. And I thi nk you need more diffuse in his eyes (are those modelled eyes or just hte eyes from your background image, because I would try and get some 3d eyes and put them in there)

    Would you mind posting a tutorial?
     
  19. Roy

    Roy Jedi Youngling

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    Thanks
    I didnt show it on zbrushcentral,do you think that cheeks are low or big?When it will be finished i want make making of and maybe tutorial.Eyes are 3d
     
  20. Roy

    Roy Jedi Youngling

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    [image=http://roysite.own.cz/wip/multipass.jpg]

    i did some model changes (cheeks and eyes)
    there is a making of - multipass render
     
  21. DarthDiabolous

    DarthDiabolous Jedi Youngling star 2

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    The forehead is too big... and the nose needs to be squashed into the face a bit more... and the ears must be slightly longer and pointier...and the eyes are not big enough
     
  22. Brandeni

    Brandeni Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Make the green colored part of the eye much bigger. Yoda doesn't have much white in his eyes.
     
  23. CaptSparrow

    CaptSparrow Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Cartoon Yoda, yes.

    Movie Yoda, no.

     
  24. Roy

    Roy Jedi Youngling

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    [image=http://roysite.own.cz/wip/withbody.jpg]
    I made body
     
  25. Darth_Steven

    Darth_Steven Jedi Youngling star 2

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    It looks pretty good. Although there are major proportion problems with the legs in particular. Remember Yoda was only 2'2" tall.
     
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