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Yoda = One of the greatest fictional Characters of all time?

Discussion in 'Star Wars Saga In-Depth' started by Eminent_Being, Jun 12, 2007.

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  1. Eminent_Being

    Eminent_Being Jedi Youngling

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    I just looked a a list of the 100 most memorable movie characters, it was excellent, except for one omission, Yoda. Is it just me, or is Yoda one of the greatest movie characters of all time?
     
  2. _Sublime_Skywalker_

    _Sublime_Skywalker_ Jedi Master star 4

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    I'd say yes. Our first sight of yoda is a ghetto little puppet who acts like he's high on crack. Then suddenly you find out he's one of the greatest jedi warriors to live.

    In the PT he's wise, selfless and powerful.He's always at peace and calm, he's a great jedi master. Plus, many many people mock and impersonate the way he talks. He even has a button in tribute to him, one I have on my pin filled jacket. Size matters not. You know you're well know when you have your own pin of yourself, and I'm not talking about hockey pins for moms or lame buttons you make with the 90's create a button machine.Plus I have a keychain of yoda.

    This could just be the result of the mass marketing done by Lucas though.
     
  3. BlackPool

    BlackPool Manager Emeritus star 4 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    If you had asked this before '02, I would have agreed with you. As it is, I think it was a good call omitting him.
     
  4. Darth_Laudrup

    Darth_Laudrup Jedi Master star 4

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    It depends a lot on your definition of a great fictional character.

    Sherlock Holmes, The Joker, Superman, Mad Max, Yoda, Peter Pan, Hannibal Lecter, Captain Picard, Indiana Jones, Captain Nemo, Aragorn, James Bond & Michael Corleone are all great characters but very very different characters.

    Do you vote on how much they teach us, how unforgetable they are or what is your criteria?
     
  5. Eminent_Being

    Eminent_Being Jedi Youngling

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    I'd say a great character teaches us something or how unforgettable they are. Yoda, as much of a loser comment this may be, is one of my greatest influences. Selfless, wise, and always willing to fight what you know is right, no matter what the odds are.
     
  6. Master_Starwalker

    Master_Starwalker Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I think Yoda is at the very least one of the greatest fictional mentors of all time if not one of the greatest fiction characters of all time. However, I'd personally say he's both just because of how entrenched he became in society, I mean I've heard people that NEVER quote Star Wars say a variation of "Do. Or Do Not. There is no try."
     
  7. WolverineOfTheORS

    WolverineOfTheORS Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Of coarse Yoda is one of the greatest fictional characters to ever grace the big-screen. Not only Yoda, but there are many other characters in the GFFA who could be viewed as "the greatest of all time". Darth Vader? He is probably- if not- the greatest villain to ever grace cinema. He was a true villain, and he represented "evil" definitively. Emperor Palpatine? Another exceedingly impressive villain. He is a stereotyped villain, and very old fashioned, but that's what makes Emperor Palpatine so impressive and glorious to watch. He comes across as a disgruntled old man, but really, he possesses extraordinary power.

    Jar Jar Binks? One of the greatest, and memorable CGI characters ever created. His humorous character is there for all to see. He is the pinnacle of "amsuing an eight-year-old," and is what every CGI character should strive to become. Jar Jar's humour, and importance to the storyline should not go unnoticed, and the great Gungan deserves a heck of a lot of credit.
     
  8. DarthPoppy

    DarthPoppy Jedi Master star 4

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    I wouldn't rate Yoda that high--I mean he is pretty great in ESB, but rather predicatable and annoying with his illogical grammar in the PT. I am not sure he is even in the top five characters in Star Wars, let alone all of fiction! For me the top five great characters of Star Wars would be:

    Vader
    Ben Kenobi
    Luke
    Han
    R2-D2

    of these only Vader and Old Ben (from the original Star Wars) would probably make a top 10 characters in film list, and none of them would make a top 10 list for all of fiction! You can't forget the great literay characters like Alyosha Karamzov, Eugene Onegen, Hamlet, Captain Ahab, etc.
     
  9. Darth-Erevos

    Darth-Erevos Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Of course Yoda is one of the greatest fictional characters of all time, at least in films. But me too, i would not rank him in top 3 for Star Wars. I 'd put Vader, Palpatine and R2-D2 on top with Vader in top 5 of all fictional characters.
     
  10. Arawn_Fenn

    Arawn_Fenn Force Ghost star 7

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    Yoda is not fictional. He is real. He lives in the desert and is acting as Axl Rose's spiritual advisor.
     
  11. Arawn_Fenn

    Arawn_Fenn Force Ghost star 7

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    Search your feelings. You know it to be true.
     
  12. Dark_Faith

    Dark_Faith Jedi Youngling star 3

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    We're all fictional characters, life is one big fiction. The stories are the little shreds of reality that we are able to muster.

    Your focus determines your reality.
     
  13. Arawn_Fenn

    Arawn_Fenn Force Ghost star 7

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    Hey, if it makes you feel better.
     
  14. boxy_brown

    boxy_brown Jedi Youngling star 1

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    interesting post =)

    Made me think of that thing that was on network TV a year or so back, "The 100 Grestest Americans".

    Bill Clinton and George W. Bush were 4 and 5. Can you believe that. This is so questionable, on so many levels, I can't even begin.

    Jim Henson wasn't on the list however, even though Madonna was. Henson is my hero, and indirectly responsible for making Yoda what he was. I feel your pain in being dissapointed in what is really a silly poll.

    To bottom line it: Polls suck, People easily mistake quality for anything but, and Jim Henson > all.
     
  15. Jamiebacca

    Jamiebacca Jedi Padawan star 4

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    You mean Yoda's not real?
     
  16. RamRed

    RamRed Jedi Master star 4

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    Why should Yoda be considered one of the greatest fictional characters of all time, and not any of the other SW characters?
     
  17. Jamiebacca

    Jamiebacca Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I thought he was real.

    (walks down road kicking a can)
     
  18. _Sublime_Skywalker_

    _Sublime_Skywalker_ Jedi Master star 4

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    I'd have to agree with that partly. Vader definately is one of the greatest same with the Emporer and Luke. Hell even r2! Yoda however caught the hearts of many...with his poorly produced puppet, his crazed nature yet infinate wisdom....and his backward speech.

    Like him, I do.
     
  19. RamRed

    RamRed Jedi Master star 4

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    You have no idea on how right you are.


    Darth Vader? He is probably- if not- the greatest villain to ever grace cinema. He was a true villain, and he represented "evil" definitively.


    Really? I don't think he definitely represented "evil". For me, he represented the evil that lurks in everyone . . . and the danger of succumbing to that inner darkness.
     
  20. Jamiebacca

    Jamiebacca Jedi Padawan star 4

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    BAH, HUMBUG!

    From 1977-1979, Vader was ALL evil, baby!
     
  21. Master_Starwalker

    Master_Starwalker Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    And even after that everyone considered him a villain with a last minute redemption not a 'tragic hero.'
     
  22. Arawn_Fenn

    Arawn_Fenn Force Ghost star 7

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    The idea was that the good that was in him had always been there, it didn't just originate out of nowhere at the end of ROTJ. This makes him a tragic hero.
     
  23. DarthPoppy

    DarthPoppy Jedi Master star 4

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    Tragic heroes don't get "redeemed"; that is why they are "tragic". Read some literary theory.
     
  24. wcleere

    wcleere Jedi Master star 3

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    True, he would only be considered truly tragic if the Saga was only the PT. However, redemption of the tragic figure is not totally unheard of in literature...Oedipus for example, whose "redemption" could be compared to Vader's.
     
  25. Master_Starwalker

    Master_Starwalker Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    It's not anywhere in the original, and it's barely in Empire. It hasn't "always been there" regardless of what Lucas says.
     
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