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You don't know the power of the Dark Side...

Discussion in 'Star Wars Saga In-Depth' started by Daft-Vader, Jun 5, 2011.

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  1. Daft-Vader

    Daft-Vader Jedi Grand Master star 8

    Aug 6, 2008

    OK so in TESB, Luke asks Yoda if the Dark Side is stronger, he replies "No, quicker, easier, more seductive"

    So by this, it would seem that the Dark Side is not stronger,

    yet now other films are showing the Dark Side to seem stronger

    TPM - Darth Maul beats a Jedi Master

    In revenge of the Sith, Anakin can only defeats Dooku when he starts using the Dark Side

    Darth Sidious wiping Three Jedi within seconds

    Even in RotJ, Luke is only seen to beat Vader after Vader goads Luke into the Dark Side using his sister

    So why is the Dark Side stated to be not so powerful, but then shown to be more powerful?
  2. Krueger

    Krueger Chosen One star 5

    Aug 9, 2004
    I think the Dark Side, in terms of brute strength and power, is the stronger of the two. It?s also the easier to master. The Light Side, however, is much more rewarding and is for the stronger-willed.
  3. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Nightsister of Four Realms star 9 Staff Member Manager

    Mar 4, 2011
    This. And I think Yoda's statement that it's "quicker and easier" explains the incidents mentioned above. It was Yoda's way of saying that it's stronger--from a certain point of view. At that point in Luke's training, I'm not sure he could have handled the idea that, "Yes, the Dark Side is physically more powerful, but at a price."
  4. Fat_Rancor_Keeper

    Fat_Rancor_Keeper Jedi Knight star 3

    Apr 17, 2010
    It's sort of like in real's usually a lot easier to do the wrong thing than it is to do the right thing in certain situations.
  5. StampidHD280pro

    StampidHD280pro Jedi Master star 4

    Jul 28, 2005
    Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering, and suffering leads to greed, which is the dark side itself. One doesn't even need to be a Force-user to be a dark sider.

    Greed, the greatest of motivators, can lead to "UNLIMITED POWER", but this comes at the price of caution. Which is where this all started, wasn't it?
  6. PiettsHat

    PiettsHat Jedi Grand Master star 4

    Jan 1, 2011
    In terms of direct combat, the Dark Side is stronger, if only because it doesn't bear the burden of caring for others. As Anakin says in ROTS, "the Jedi care only for others" and "the Sith think inwards, only about themselves." The ideal that the Jedi strive for is to put galaxy first and act as servants for the populace. When it comes to achieving goals, however, especially goals that will involve fighting, they are impeded by their consideration for other beings. It's much easier to dominate or destroy your opponents when you are ambivalent towards casualties, when anyone and everyone is disposable.

    In the long run, though, the Light Side prevails because it reaches out to others -- you can only oppress people for so long before they rise up to challenge you, as seen in the OT.
  7. Lt.Cmdr.Thrawn

    Lt.Cmdr.Thrawn Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

    Sep 23, 1999
    I took it to mean that nothing is possible through the dark side that is impossible through the light; it's just easier to do some things with the dark side.

    For example, Yoda could lift just as heavy an object as Vader could, but Vader wouldn't have to find a way to route the Force's energy in a "natural" way and could just brute force it. Of course, this type of unrestrained usage exacts a terrible toll - you end up a shriveled, decrepit monster like the Emperor.

    So the dark side is literally not any stronger; just easier, and to balance that ease, more dangerous.
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