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You know, up until the DVD set was announced, I NEVER thought that Shaw was actually Anakin...

Discussion in 'Classic Trilogy' started by BauconBatista, Oct 21, 2004.

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  1. BauconBatista

    BauconBatista Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I just thought the ghost was some other important Jedi from the days of the Old Republic. I'm serious.

    [face_plain]
     
  2. Emperor1121

    Emperor1121 Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Are you joking? Obi-Wan and Luke call Vader, Anakin. And then you see Vader unmasked, then that same person shows up as a ghost? How did you miss that, lol?
     
  3. HanSolo29

    HanSolo29 Manager Emeritus + Official Star Wars Artist star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    How could you have not made the connection between the guy underneath the helmet and the ghost at the end? They're the EXACT same person. It's not hard to figure that out.
     
  4. Grand-Moff-Tarkin

    Grand-Moff-Tarkin Jedi Youngling star 1

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    It took me years to make the connection that Vader unmasked and the ghost at the end were the same person. They do look different. One guy is in Jedi robes and has hair with a big smile on his face, whereas the other one is bald and scarred.

    I always thought it was just some other Jedi too. It wasn't until about fifth grade or so that I finally made the connection, so I can easily see how someone else might not have.
     
  5. JediHobbit

    JediHobbit Jedi Master star 5

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    oh wow

    that's really, really odd. who else could it have been? :confused:

    you guys are silly :p
     
  6. Leias_love_slave

    Leias_love_slave Jedi Knight star 5

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    Wow. I'm surprised that you would admit that 'Return of the Jedi' was over your head.
     
  7. SW_Holiday_Special

    SW_Holiday_Special Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I too never realized that the ghost was Anakin Skywalker (it wasn't until someone told me that I found out).
     
  8. Grand-Moff-Tarkin

    Grand-Moff-Tarkin Jedi Youngling star 1

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    When I was a kid I didn't really think too much about it. I just remember thinking 'wow, these are great movies!' Just like I first thought that DS1 and DS2 were one and the same, DS2 just being battle damaged.

    Silly kids, me included.
     
  9. masterjedi747

    masterjedi747 Jedi Master star 3

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    You know, up until the DVD set was announced, I NEVER thought that Shaw was actually Anakin...
    Come on... didn't you even ONCE watch the first few seconds of the credits after the movie had ended?
    It says SEBASTIAN SHAW AS OLDER ANAKIN SKYWALKER right across the screen in big blue letters... :rolleyes: :p

    Just like I first thought that DS1 and DS2 were one and the same, DS2 just being battle damaged.
    ^^^[face_laugh] I'm sorry, but that's just too funny. :D
     
  10. Dark Lady Mara

    Dark Lady Mara Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Just like I first thought that DS1 and DS2 were one and the same, DS2 just being battle damaged.

    My "Star Wars buddy" at school actually thought that until we were in tenth grade or so. :D :D

    Though actually, I guess I can sort of understand that. The Empire could have recovered the largest piece of the DS I that was left after the explosion and starting rebuilding around it or something. :p I'm trying to remember how the opening crawl is worded. Does it specifically discount that possibility?
     
  11. Ididitall4thewookie

    Ididitall4thewookie Jedi Youngling star 3

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    This is the most surprising thread in a long time.
     
  12. Obi_Frans

    Obi_Frans Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I was surprised (and amused) when someone told me that for years they thought it was Uncle Owen.

    I was even more surprised when i found out there were more people who were left confused by it.
     
  13. DarthyMarkyMark

    DarthyMarkyMark Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I have to say, when I saw RotJ for the first time, I guessed it was Anakin, but was slightly confused as to why he looked older than Obi-Wan. I think Sebastian Shaw was 78 at the time - hardly the right age to play a 45 year old - or, indeed, a 23 year old - spirit.
     
  14. OnlyOneKenobi

    OnlyOneKenobi Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Well, in terms of actors, I had difficulty recognising Shaw with hair and robes as the same person under the Vader mask, but in terms of the story I knew it had to be Luke's father, Anakin - who else would it be?
     
  15. NeoBaggins

    NeoBaggins Jedi Master star 5

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    "You know, up until the DVD set was announced, I NEVER thought that Shaw was actually Anakin..."

    So its true. Really Young fans wernt the only ones confused by Shaw. Dang. I Didnt doubt that. Terrific observation if you will.
     
  16. DS615

    DS615 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I am doubtful.
     
  17. NeoBaggins

    NeoBaggins Jedi Master star 5

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    Heeey, twilekjedi. You edited my last code in that post?
     
  18. Leias_love_slave

    Leias_love_slave Jedi Knight star 5

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    ...but was slightly confused as to why he looked older than Obi-Wan.

    You mean, as a kid, you really thought the old guy with the DARK hair looked older than the old guy with the SNOW-WHITE hair and beard?

    When people say that they were confused because Anakin's ghost wasn't all burned and scarred, I wonder why they aren't equally confused that Obi-Wan's ghost isn't cut in half. :confused:

    Well, it never made sense to me that Luke looked FIVE YEARS OLDER than his twin sister Leia.

    I hope they 'fix' this. :rolleyes:
     
  19. DarthyMarkyMark

    DarthyMarkyMark Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Well, I was 14 when I first saw RotJ, so I wasn't really a kid, but anyway - yep, Shaw definitely looks older than Guinness to me. Maybe it's just my eyes, but to me he's very wrinkly, and his teeth look weird - did he have false teeth? Anyone know? I know Guinness had white hair, but that doesn't mean much - Shaw had grey hair, and overall, to me he looked older. He certainly doesn't look 15 years younger than Alec Guinness. Just the way I see it. :p
     
  20. TwiLekJedi

    TwiLekJedi Pretty Ex-Mod star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    "Heeey, twilekjedi. You edited my last code in that post?"

    heeY... mE? edit? codeS? I have no idea WHat You're talking about? [face_whistling]
     
  21. Leias_love_slave

    Leias_love_slave Jedi Knight star 5

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    You guys are talking about codes...

    ...But I don'T gEt what you MEan. :p
     
  22. Palp_Faction

    Palp_Faction Jedi Master star 3

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    For one person not to realise that's Anakin is incredible, but for there to be others is completely....well, I don't think there's a word for it. Then again, I've often wondered what happened to that girl in the first film who had those buns on the side of her head. Should have brought her character back for the sequels.
     
  23. Ididitall4thewookie

    Ididitall4thewookie Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Ya know, for a while I was totally amazed that people didnt get that it was Anakin in the end. I thought it was ridiculous that I put it together as a 6 year old and lots of others couldnt.

    But I will say that I am now eating crow because I always thought SS looked much younger than OB1 and I always figured he was about 50 [face_blush].
     
  24. lord-darkhelmet

    lord-darkhelmet Jedi Youngling star 3

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    It's actually not that uncommon. I think there were a number of people who thought that the ghost was Uncle Owen. And it certainly isn't uncommon to think that Shaw looked older than Guinness since he actually was, by about 9 years.
     
  25. Obi-Wan2001

    Obi-Wan2001 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I've often wondered what happened to that girl in the first film who had those buns on the side of her head. Should have brought her character back for the sequels.

    [face_laugh] That made me laugh, Palp_Faction. That's pretty good.

    It is a strange phenomenon, really. Just what is it about Sebastian Shaw that makes some people not recognize this guy from five minutes earlier in the film. His face isn't that messed up in the unmasking scene at all. In fact, If the back of his head from ESB was any indication, I bet most of use expected Anakin's face to be in much worse shape, the first time we all saw him unmasked.
     
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