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Amph "You think you're the only superhero in the world? (Insert Snark)" - The Marvel Cinematic Universe

Discussion in 'Community' started by The2ndQuest , Apr 26, 2010.

  1. Jabba-wocky

    Jabba-wocky Chosen One star 9

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    I don’t dislike watching films with them. Going to the cinema is a nice activity. I think the actual films selected are not well-made.
     
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  2. Diggy

    Diggy Force Ghost star 7

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    Well, how about next time you just say, "Instead of watching MCU 24, come over and we can watch Rabbit Proof Fence. The popcorn is on me!"

    I don't like you being treated the way you are being treated.
     
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  3. DarthIntegral

    DarthIntegral SFTC June Tiemaster star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    This is such an odd position to be in. But I agree with Wocky over Diggy.
     
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  4. Diggy

    Diggy Force Ghost star 7

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    TBH I take it as a bonus that everyone doesn't disagree with everything I post.
     
  5. Bacon164

    Bacon164 Jedi Grand Master star 7

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  6. DarthIntegral

    DarthIntegral SFTC June Tiemaster star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    and the only reason to watch them is to be able to have something to talk about with friends and family.
     
  7. Darth_Invidious

    Darth_Invidious Force Ghost star 6

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    Either way, I'm not buying it.
     
  8. MrZAP

    MrZAP Jedi Master star 5

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    -2 Spider-Man
     
  9. darth-sinister

    darth-sinister Manager Emeritus star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    It had to do with different people running the productions. Jon Peters was too obsessed with his freak of nature, toy centric Superman and Batman had to take a hiatus to figure out the proper direction to go in, after "Batman & Robin". And then when there was an attempt at doing "Batman vs Superman", which had a script and a director, Peters hired JJ Abrams to block it with his crappy "Superman: Flyby" script, which then put an end to the crossover. Feige just got lucky that he was able to get the rights cleared for Captain America, the Hulk, Iron Man and Thor so that he could get the loan to make the first two Phase One films. And if those two hadn't done well enough, the whole thing would have tanked.
     
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  10. Sith_Sensei__Prime

    Sith_Sensei__Prime Chosen One star 6

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    Do you really feel Feige "got lucky" or he actually did some work and made his vision happen? I mean, it sounding like you're saying those characters just fell out of the sky and into Fiege's lap with no effort or imagination of his part. In short, sounds you're not really giving him any credit.

    And I would agree that powers at be at WB/DC couldn't see the forest through the trees and decided to go with solo/unshared universe films.
     
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  11. Bilbo Fett

    Bilbo Fett Jedi Knight star 3

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    I think that's part of it. Maybe the biggest part. But in the way of handing a fig leaf out to WB what Marvel is doing with the MCU is also very counter intuitive to how Hollywood has been doing business for a long time now. Setting up a central architect and an entire studio apparatus and support structure around a single film series is far from the norm. Even Lucasfilm under Lucas wasn't that. In part because Lucas, like most creatives in Hollywood, wanted to branch out and not be known for just one thing. There is a stigma to being seen as one note that is heavily ingrained into the culture of the business. Finding someone with the combination of skill, interest in and understanding of the material, and the contentment to stay in the position long term as Feige has is no small thing. That's where I think Lady Luck has smiled down on the MCU, not so much on Feige himself (but he has had his share of good fortune along the way). So to an extent I can understand WB shying away from trying to replicate that.
     
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  12. Bilbo Fett

    Bilbo Fett Jedi Knight star 3

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    Ton Holland spilled the title for the next Spider-Man movie.

     
  13. Diggy

    Diggy Force Ghost star 7

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    “Spilled” suggests it’s an accident.
     
  14. Bilbo Fett

    Bilbo Fett Jedi Knight star 3

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    No it denotes intended impression here. That was definitely staged.
     
  15. Master_Lok

    Master_Lok Force Ghost star 6

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    Dead? Yeah, we will see if that sticks to walls too. /cynic
     
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  16. Bilbo Fett

    Bilbo Fett Jedi Knight star 3

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  17. dp4m

    dp4m Chosen One star 10

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    Wow, I did not recognize her with that hair. She's amazing on Humans (a Swedish sci-fi show about humanity and robotics).
     
  18. Diggy

    Diggy Force Ghost star 7

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    Yes, she looks really different. But humans isn’t Swedish.
     
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  19. dp4m

    dp4m Chosen One star 10

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    Ah, sorry -- it's based on a Swedish show. My bad.
     
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  20. Diggy

    Diggy Force Ghost star 7

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    Your greatest of failures!
     
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  21. Jedi Merkurian

    Jedi Merkurian New Films Thread Reaper and Rumor Naysayer star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    BTW, isn't Infinity War the first movie with Avengers in it that didn't have Avengers fighting each other?

    Avengers: Thor vs. Iron Man, Thor vs. Hulk, Black Widow vs. Hawkeye
    Age of Ultron: Iron Man vs. Hulk
    Civil War: Good grief.
    Ragnarok: Thor vs. Hulk, Round 2


    EDIT: ah crud. Forgot about Winter Soldier; Cap and Widow did not fight.
     
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  22. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Guardians vs Stark/Strange/Spidey count?
     
  23. Ghost

    Ghost Chosen One star 7

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    Question / potential "plot hole" (though I hate that term!) that I just thought of... when you patent something, the US government gains access to the designs for that technology. For example, for top-secret military use.

    During the movie "Civil War," or in its aftermath, since Iron Man is dependent on his (incredible) technology... why didn't they just give the "Iron Man technology" to every Navy SEAL and Army Ranger? Then they'd have an entire literal army of supersoldier Iron Men/Women. It's not like with Captain America where they lost the serum or whatever, or the Hulk where it's too dangerous.
     
  24. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Is there any indication Tony actually patented his suit tech? I'm sure a lot of Stark Tech is patented but they wouldn't have the hearing in IM2 if the government already had access to the tech designs.
     
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  25. BigAl6ft6

    BigAl6ft6 Force Ghost star 6

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    The US Government wanted his suit tech he said "you can't have it". Whiplash made a whole lot of drones with Hammer tech and that didn't go so well either. So it would seem the US Government basically wants to stay out of the making Iron Man tech basically after everything that happened at Stark Expo. They have War Machine and he's loyal, they seem to be fine with just him.(also it's probably really, really, really pricey and who knows any safeguards Tony built into his tech anyway) At least they can control War Machine. Until Cap came back and he changed his mind!
     
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