Amph "You think you're the only superhero in the world?" - The Marvel Cinematic Universe

Truly a great send off to one of the founding Avengers, the first female Avenger, the one to name the Avengers, and the one to name Vision. It was truly handled with care and respect to that character's enormous contributions to marvel history.

 

Legacy characters still count, yo. the MCU just sorta made Wasp a legacy character the same way Tony and Banner made Ultron and Hank didn't. Things change in adaptation.

 

Exactly. Plus I suspect we'll see more of Janet herself in the next film, and maybe one day get a period 60s film of her own/with Hank Pym as SHIELD agents.

 

If they existed in the comics sure. If they want to make Bucky Cap fine, etc... but Hope van Dyne's only apperance has been as a supervillain in an alternate universe.
Not to mention they made Hope a carbon copy of Janet, legacy characters tend not to be carbon copies of the hero they are replacing, there's usually some difference to make the change... a change. I mean all the movie had to do was change Janet to Maria Pym and Hope to janet and it'd be fine. The only difference then is which Ant-Man she's in a relationship with.

 

Ultron California

 

If Hope is the same character as Janet, where's the problem? Her first name is different, but apart from that she's the same person. We'll see her kick ass in the sequel.

 

The Wasp & Ant-Man are probably going to be Avengers in time for Infinity War, I am pretty okay that those characters are going to be Avengers and I don't particularly mind which individual is behind the mask. I mean, it's not as if Wasp has been a Skrull the entire time, has she? (Wait, she might, if Marvel ever gets FF rights back)

 

Marvel has rights to the Skrulls, just not Super-Skrull.
As for who is behind the mask, it is kind of an important issue. I mean people wouldn't be throwing a fit about Lex Luthor being Lex Luthor Jr. if identities weren't important.

Not to mention I'm sure the comics will want to fall in line with the movies and off janet and put Hope in just so movie people who start reading the comics aren't confused...

 

I thought Marvel didn't have the rights to the Skrulls, which why we got the Chitauri. Unless, the Chitauri are actually Skrulls. Damn shape-shifters.

 

Want me to give you hope (pun intended!)?

They never showed Janet's face. Classic technique indicating "We're planning on exploring this in the next installment(s) and we're going to cast a major named actress!"

I would give anything for it to be Catherine Zeta-Jones, if only because it'd mean she and Douglas are back together.

 

Catherine Zeta-Jones could play a White Angelo Saxon Protestant. Yeah, thumbs up on that idea.

 

Nope it's because with the mind control aspect they didn't want to add shape-shifting as well as it would confuse the audience as to who was who.

But they have rights to the Skrull

Hope is forsaken in these lands (pun intended)

Yeah it's about 90% confirmed Janet will be cast and rescued from the microverse. They wouldn't go through all the set up of not showing her and leaving Hank with the knowledge she could be rescued and not follow up on it.
Only issue is if she gets back and lets Hope take her role and doesn't continue with her own. Would feel like, Batman retiring in TDK/TDKR and Black Widow suddenly wanting to as well.

Well Micahel Douglas would agree with you as she was his first choice when asked as well. He said he thought it'd be a fun project for them to do. And i would be 100% okay with Catherine Zeta-Jones in the Wasp suit.

I'm honestly ashamed it took me 14 minutes to get that.

 

Yeah the Chitarui are the "Ultimate" Skrulls (well, they were in the first volume of Ultimates but that probably changed in the Ultimate line. Anyway it's literally one line in The Ultimates where the Chitari dude says "Some people call us Skrulls") but I think the full-on Skrulls (and super-skrull) are still FF properties. (Mostly, I'd wager Marvel wants the FF back for space stuff)

anyway, they do and don't own the skrulls but mostly don't

https://www.reddit.com/r/marvelstudios/comments/253e4v/clearing_up_the_skrulls_film_rights/

Kevin Feige in 2009.

"Will the Skrulls be the villain in The Avengers?’ I asked.
Feige gave me one of those looks he’s good at giving and just said, ‘We do own them.’
More digging turned up the fact that Marvel Studios owns the Skrull race, while Fox own the Super Skrull.​

Kevin Feige in 2012, right at the release of The Avengers.

Josh: And the Skrulls are currently occupied outside of the Marvel Studios universe, correct?
Feige: Yes, Skrulls have a big connection to Fantastic Four. So there are some contractual limitations about who can do what when it comes to Skrulls. Though that is not why we didn’t do Skrulls. There is already enough going on in this movie.​

James Gunn, February 2014.

"Marvel only partially owns Skrulls, and also for the record, we don't own the Badoon either. So people were asking why we have the Sakaaran in the film, we don't own the Badoon."​

Gotta admit, the Alexander Luthor Jr. thing also doesn't bother me in the slightest. He's still Lex Luthor (Yeah, Alex, but everyone is gonna call him Lex), evil billionaire who runs LexCorp, wants to destroy Superman. Lex always had parental issues anyway in pretty much every medium (and the Fortune article mentioned his father's death, which also in various mediums Lex killed the bejesus outta his old man). Skewing younger I think works too, Jessie Esienberg can play a pretentious jerkwad reallll well. As for the hair, I guaran-damn-tee Lex will be bald by the time the credits for that movie roll.

 

Are Ant Man and Captain Marvel expected to be in Infinity War?

 

Well, much like Black Panther, Captain Marvel and Spider-Man will most likely be introduced before in the MCU in some other film before their solo film. Ant-Man and Wasp solo film may have a strong tie-in to the Infinity War. Perhaps they have to shrink down to the microverse (or whatever it was called in Ant-Man) to get Janet and/or find another Infinity Stone to take down Thanos.

 

Jeez, three in 2017. And they're doing that nearly back to back with a film in May and another in July. And Guardians 2 is going to be massive.

 

And that does not include Fox's Marvel properties or WB/DC comic flicks.

 

Very handy li'l guide there, Prime! If dazzling in its chock-full-of-awesome-ness.

 

I've seen a few dozen articles this morning denying the rumor and 100% confirming the movie is still on.

Admittedly I'd still be a little suspicious given there has been ZERO news on anything with that film. But feel it's more likely it's still on. Can't see AoS having the budget for the royal family and the special effects they'd need. Not to mention it's AGENTS OF SHIELD, at best the royal family could be recurring guest stars. Would be like making the X-men recurring guest stars in Daredevil, they need their own thing.

Though the fact a riff between the tv and movie people makes a rumor like this so believable is a problem. Feige and Loeb have to start talking and working together.
Honestly if an intern decides to orchestrate an Oswald Cobblepot rise to power and get rid of them both i wouldn't complain

 

July 10, 2020: Bets on it being held for the Fantastic Four?

May seems like a sequel placeholder. But July is normally a newer property. And 2020 is probably the soonest Marvel could squeeze the FF in if Fox gives/sells the rights back.