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A society willing to elect Donald Trump as president deserves a Venom movie.

 

so they're doing a Venom movie without introducing it with Spider-Man.
I was thinking a while back it's sad Marvel doesn't have control of everything or they could do the original Secret Wars as a movie, or two more probably, and introduce the black suite properly.

 

Or maybe Venom's origin already happened?



"We" just hope it's the REAL Venom.






NOT

 

I do like the character in general. Hope it turns out well, but I'm not sure what the draw will be without doing the Black Suit Spider-Man story first. At any rate, it'll be interesting to compare to Venom's last big screen role in Spider-Man 3. (I personally have few complaints against that movie and thought that, for compressing the Black Suit/Venom story into one movie, it worked pretty well. Hope the new one doesn't expose the host's face too much. That's one thing that I though SM3 misstepped on.)

 

AAHHHHHH!! MY EYES!! WHYYYYYYYY????

 

Cute image.

Yeah, those points have been sticking with me a lot since my theatrical binge. The sling rings in particular; considering they use something similar to call up mystical energy weapons and shields with the hand/mind. I can understand novices using sling rings, but considering how quickly Strange adapted and learned, I hope he moves beyond that going forward.

 

in other words:

Fox

 

This is the single most appropriate comment.

 

Yeah, this is a surprising news, but I can't quite say is absurd because the general going movie audience are not comic book nerds and it's not like movie studio haven't made stand alone super hero films before. I mean, stand along super hero films were pretty much the standard before the MCU came along with their shared universe.

I'm not sure if it's been confirmed this will be the Eddie Brock version of Venom. It could be a Flash Thompson version of Venom which doesn't have very strong ties to Peter Parker/Spider-Man.


To my understanding, Flash Thompson Venom has pretty much been living in his own "world" as I don't recall him crossing over in any of the Spider-Man comic books I've been reading.

But, I read some speculation that it will be Eddie Brock Venom and possible villain could be Carnage, which could be a R Rated film that Disney/Marvel wouldn't touch.

 

Topher Grace needs food, so does Josh Trank. Make it happen.



*laughs evily*

 

Perhaps the general audience might associate Venom with Spider-Man because of Spidey 3, but I doubt that will be a problem as Venom wasn't really a strong character in that film. In fact, he was kind of forgettable and I doubt recall if they even used the name Venom in the film. He could be thought of as evil Spider-Man by the general audience.

Now, I'm not saying that Venom won't be connected to Spidey, but rather that the character can stand on his own. That there could be a reference to Spider-Man but he would never really need to appear onscreen. I could see a Venom vs. Carnage flick. Venom wasn't so much a villain, in the sense he committed crimes or wanted to take over the work, IIRC, he only hated Spider-Man and wanted to torment him. So, if there's no more hatred towards Spider-Man, Venom could be anti-hero or even a hero in this film.

 

Meh on a Venom movie. But, with the rise of R-Rated Superhero movies, give me Maximum Carnage as a movie adaptation.

 

Well, I'm not certain that Venom is a household name. Meaning, I don't think my mom or people of her ilk would know who Venom is. For those that do know who Venom is (the people that buy the video games, apparel and whatnot), I think for the most part would be open to seeing that character again on the silver screen. I'm sure Sony is looking at Venom as a Deadpool/Logan type of situation, where (for now) exists in his own pocket universe and has the freedom to be it's own story. That's why there is wide speculation that Sony's Venom film with be Carnage vs. Venom.



I remember Sony wanted to build their own cinematic universe before collaborating with Marvel on Spider-Man with reports of developing a Black Cat and a Sinister Six film. Looks like Sony still wants to do that as Fox has done this with their X-Men franchise. Which is understandable as I do believe they have a blockbuster franchise film in their stable. I mean, Spider-Man Homecoming is a MCU production and therefore subject to Marvel's schedule slate of films, so the subsequent sequel might be a Phase IV film, which probably won't happen until 2020? That's leaves Sony without any revenue source for its Spider-Man license for years. Creating a Venom and whatnot franchise gives them an opportunity to maximize their investment on holding the rights to the Spider-Man universe.

 

this story just reminds me of how Fox always wants to rush through the material all at once. geez give it a few years and let Venom show up in a Spidey movie.

 

I mean, I'm not like super-pumped, but I've always thought there was potential in Venom and I think it would fit right into the whole thing with Deadpool, ie. screw up a character horribly and then bring him back awesomely. I mean, I don't know that Venom in Spiderman 3 was awful, but it definitely provoked the reaction, for me at least, of "They had Venom and THAT'S what they did with him?"

 

I don't think this is MCU-related, the key part is in the Variety article that announced it:

"Scott Rosenberg (“Jumanji”) and Jeff Pinkner (“The Dark Tower”) will write the script for the Venom film, with Avi Arad and Matt Tolmach producing the picture."

Arad and Tolmach were pushing forces on the first 5 Spider-flicks, and Homecoming is way more Feige and Disney basically freelancing for Sony. Arad and Tolmach are basically non-entities in Homecoming and the MCU, and there's no mention of Kevin Feige or Disney or the MCU here. This sort of falls under the umbrella of Sony wants to still make a bunch of Spider-movies but Spider-Man of it all is now in the MCU so they're going unrelated spin-offs like the animated Miles Morales flick and Venom spin-off. Basically Disney and Sony have a handshake agreement with Spider-Man and his close supporting cast (and there are apparently some cheques being cut if the movies reach X-amount of box office benchmarks) but this Venom and the Miles animated flicks are basically Sony's ASM2 Spider-spin-off movies plan again without having to involve Disney and Marvel.

I think Venom is a strong enough character where they could pull it off without involving Spider-Man or the larger MCU but it'd honestly be really hard and has to be really good.

 

Is Venom a strong character, though? Really, it was interesting look at Peter Parker's darker impulses. But I don't really care about some jaded rival news reporter or whatever thing.

 

Venom has his own comic series, toy line, and video game, in the mid-1990's. He's usually considered, along with the Green Goblin and Doctor Octopus, as one of Spider-Man's three arch-nemeses.

 

Like the Tamagotchi, Venom was big in the 90s.

 

Yup