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JCC You travel back in time five years, and can give yourself one piece of advice

Discussion in 'Community' started by Diggy , Mar 12, 2013.

  1. Juliet316

    Juliet316 Chosen One star 10

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  2. Asterix_of_Gaul

    Asterix_of_Gaul Jedi Master star 5

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    Put some money on the cubs
     
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  3. Obi-Zahn Kenobi

    Obi-Zahn Kenobi Force Ghost star 7

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    There is essentially no way for you to misunderstand what I have said, and also no way that any of you can seriously think that I condone rape in the slightest. It's annoying that you're pretending that what I have said is awful and horrible, when it's in fact quite mundane. The point is clear; we have "natural" urges, natural meaning they exist in nature, but it doesn't mean that we should act upon them, even if we have the capability.

    If any of you try to spin this as, "OZK thinks homosexual sex is as bad as rape" or "OZK wants to rape people", you're doing it to intentionally malign me and pat yourselves on the back for feeling like better people than me, and it's quite dishonest and shameful.

    I detest rape and find it abhorrent. I've never had the urge to force sex on someone against their will, and would be surprised if I ever do (although I recognize that as a human being, I am capable of that urge, and because of that, am even more determined not to act upon that urge should it ever arise).
     
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  4. Jedi_Reject_Jesse

    Jedi_Reject_Jesse Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    College is a waste of time, don't go
     
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  5. Harpua

    Harpua Chosen One star 9

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    OZK, why must every single thread you post in turn into this--saying something insane and then defending yourself? Are you incapable of engaging in conversation that doesn't generate some sort of outlandish debate, or using language that doesn't cause an extreme emotional reaction?
     
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  6. Jabba-wocky

    Jabba-wocky Chosen One star 10

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    In point of fact, it was easy enough to just ignore him and keep making normal contributions to the thread, like most people, or to make (laughing either at or with him), as posters like Zapdos or EmpireSometimes did. There was nothing inevitable about this, and how it played out is at least as much your fault as his.
     
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  7. Harpua

    Harpua Chosen One star 9

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    Sure, I'll own up to that... but he has to own up to the fact that his posts are crafted with the intent of generating emotional responses and leading to uncomfortable debate, in which he shoves his moral beliefs down the throats of people he's conversing with.
     
  8. tom

    tom Chosen One star 8

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    i just read his last post as "i feel compelled to rape", which i was taken aback by. to say rape is a natural urge, but then to clarify and say that you've never felt that urge seems pretty disingenuous to me and i would hope would lead to no one ever taking that person seriously again ever.
     
  9. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    Uh, OZK that was a rather huge miscalculation on your part. I saw what you were trying to get at, but it was not only wrong but it was wrong-headed too. So unless your goal was to insta-lose any argument you are ever making, you shouldn't have said that. Moreover, if you really *do* think that way that's another problem entirely... because there's nothing natural about extreme violence towards another human being. That's about as unnatural as you can get.

    Anyway -- I *would* say something like we should drop this line of discussion because it's going to lead to nothing good, but seeing as it's already gotten there --- yeah, back to your regularly scheduled topic now. Train's been wrecked, but what can you do?
     
  10. Darth Guy

    Darth Guy Chosen One star 10

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    That's what I always tell the emergency workers.
     
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  11. Only-One Cannoli

    Only-One Cannoli Ex-Mod star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Has anyone ever called you mentally unstable before? Or a psycho? Just curious.
     
  12. jp-30

    jp-30 Manager Emeritus star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    x2.
     
  13. themetresgained

    themetresgained Jedi Master star 4

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    Wow please stop.

    Also who the hell is juli?
     
  14. Harpua

    Harpua Chosen One star 9

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    Some mod favorite
     
  15. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Skywalker Saga/LFL/YJCC Manager star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Don't forget your 2013 copy of Gray's Sports Almanac.
     
  16. Obi-Zahn Kenobi

    Obi-Zahn Kenobi Force Ghost star 7

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    Depends on what you mean by natural. I find violence contrary to natural law and therefore abhorrent. But it's definitely a "natural" human urge, in that people frequently and commonly have the urge and act on it.

    The same from my last post applies. I very clearly and often enough have said how horrible I find rape. It is obvious from the words I said and context that I was not saying I felt personally compelled to rape, or that I thought it was okay that people have the urge. Anyone who find my words so awful is intentionally misinterpreting me because you have severe disagreements with my philosophy towards life and ethics.
     
  17. Ramza

    Ramza Administrator Emeritus star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Edit: Never mind.
     
  18. rocknroll41

    rocknroll41 Jedi Master star 4

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    The OP is actually a very good question because 2009-2012 were the worst years of my life. So many sad memories from that time period. I wouldn't even know what to tell myself if I can go back to 2008 and warn young-me about all of it.
     
  19. Obi-Zahn Kenobi

    Obi-Zahn Kenobi Force Ghost star 7

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    He felt free discussing it, talked about it, and then, while he mentioned dropping it, did not give the order, and specifically said that he was not giving the order.
     
  20. Ramza

    Ramza Administrator Emeritus star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    That's not how I read it, but I'll defer to a follow-up from him, I suppose.
     
  21. EmpireForever

    EmpireForever Force Ghost star 8

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    Five years ago I had a friend who smelled really bad. We would all tell him he smelled horrible, but he would just say "I don't smell anything". It was a huge ordeal, trying to get him to acknowledge that he stank, but he just wouldn't admit it.

    If I could go back in time I would just stop being his friend and ignore him instead of wasting my time trying to argue with him.
     
  22. Darth_Invidious

    Darth_Invidious Force Ghost star 6

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    These zealot virgins...boy, they sure creep the beJESUS out of me. :confused:
     
  23. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    Ramza's reading was correct. Back to the topic everyone.
     
  24. Kyle Katarn

    Kyle Katarn Force Ghost star 6

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    I'd also give myself a list of all of the major disasters and the time/date they happen so that I can beat Juliet to posting a thread about them. I was just as misanthropic back then so the change wouldn't be as noticeable.
     
  25. beezel26

    beezel26 Jedi Master star 7

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    In 2005 I would have said slow down so you don't get that ticket.