Young Guns 1 and 2

Discussion in 'Archive: The Amphitheatre' started by Obi-Wan2001, Aug 26, 2005.

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  1. Obi-Wan2001 Jedi Master

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    What do you think of the Young Guns films? I really enjoyed both of them, but I give the edge to the original. But the sequel's pretty dang solid. A lot of people like the second one better, and I can understand that. I know Kiefer Sutherland has said he thinks the sequel's better. Cool movies featuring many Brat Packers, with a great focus on "pals".

    "Yoohoo. I'll make you famous!"
  2. Ghost_Jedi Force Ghost

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    When I was younger, I would always rent these and star wars. Drove my mom nuts.


    Adios, senior ****head
  3. son_of_the_tear Force Ghost

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    I loved the first one.... didn't care at all for the second one. I guess mostly due to the old Billy the Kidd telling the story aspect.
  4. Obi-Wan2001 Jedi Master

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    Well, that was maybe five minutes of screentime, did you think it was any good outside of that?
  5. Leonard_Shelby Force Ghost

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    I love those movies...and one of the greatest moments in the series is when Kiefer's character sacrifices himself so his pals can make their escape.

    "Let's finish the game."

    Too awesome. Doc is my favorite character.

    Was a second film necessary? Not really, as the first one ended with that great voiceover by Kiefer. But was it entertaining enough for its existence to be validated? Absolutely. It's my favorite of the two, in fact.
  6. Latorski Force Ghost

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    I like them both. They were very entertaining. Doc was real cool, and Billy was fun.
  7. Qui-Gon Zero Jedi Master

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    Hehe...I own both on DVD. As far as westerns go, there have absolutely been better ones, but there's no question that this series has a special place in my cinematic heart.

    I'd probably say that I love those movies in the same way that I love....hhmmmm....Red Dawn!

    IMO, I don't think that we're too different when it comes to cheesy, yet incredibly entertaining, cinema that has reached a sense of cult status.
  8. son_of_the_tear Force Ghost

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    << Well, that was maybe five minutes of screentime, did you think it was any good outside of that? >>

    Hmmm, some aspects were great. Like the relationship with Pat and Billy and of course, Doc.
  9. Ghost_Jedi Force Ghost

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    Want to add to what I posted before. I think Young Guns are such guilty pleasure movies. As Qui-Gon Zero stated there are better westerns, but this such a great movie to enjoy.

    I think my favorite part is w/ Chavez Y Chavez describes the Red Sands Massacre. A very haunting tale. And the sad thing is, that it happened often during this time period.
  10. Obi-Wan2001 Jedi Master

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    Right on, Qui-Gon! I agree with everything you said. :)

    And yeah, they are guilty pleasure movies as westerns, but are really quite well-done in their own way. When I was a kid, we'd quote these movies left and right. I could list dozens of great scenes in both films.

    First, I had the original Artisan release of Young Guns and the Warner Bros. Young Guns II DVD. Then, I think it's been almost a few years now, Artisan came out with the Special Edition of Young Guns, so I picked that up. Even listened to the audio commentary by Lou Diamond Phillips, Dermot Mulroney, and Casey Siemaszko, which was quite entertaining.

    You can probably guess which scene gets quoted to them most often, the absolutely classic peyote sequence. :D
  11. Armenian_Jedi Force Ghost

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    I don't like the Young Gunz. They're horrible rappers IMO. And Game got 'em pretty good in 300 bars and runnin.


    *watches as no one understands what was just said*
  12. rogue_wookiee Jedi Youngling

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    *watches as no one understands what was just said*

    coughthreadderailercough
  13. alavda_corre Jedi Knight

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    I absolutely LOVED the first one. I didnt care too much for the second. Perhaps because, like someone stated earlier, the first was enough on its own. It summed up the essence of Billy The Kid.. but in hindsight, Billy The Kid wasn't necessarily the essence of what "Young Guns" was meant to be. The ending to the first left a sense of.. unknowing about the mythology of Billy The Kid (there is much speculation, but does anyone really know who or what he was?). The second - to me - tries to stamp a far too definitive answer on it.

    Favourite quote from it? : "Did you see the sizzzzzze of that chicken?!"

    ahhhh.. that kept me entertained for months..

  14. JediPriestess Force Ghost

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    Oh I loved those movies. :)
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