Discussion in 'Classic Trilogy' started by DARTH LOEAK, Aug 3, 2004.
Ooh, you're right. Fraggle Rock is a much better comparison...
A scene before Alderran blows up:
(Jar Jar is with bail on his balcony. They look up and see the DS.)
Bail: I'm worried about Leia.
Jar Jar: Sheeza has to find out sometime. Mesa no sure Obi will be able to tell her. Duza Vader know who sheeza is.
Bail: No. Niether does the emporer. I'm worried that the Death Star will destroy this planet. How will she know? What about Pande's other child. Maybe Obi-Wan will tell him everything, and he can find Leia and tell her. She needs to know.
No redundant expository dialogue in ANH especially with Jar Jar!
No need to prequelize the OT with redundant dialogue scenes.
Bail stands on a balcony and looks on. Jar Jar stand behind him.
Bail: Tonight there will be a vigil for Liea and all the crew of the Tantive.
Jar Jar: She was good to her peoples.
Bail: I don't know what I'll do without her, Jar Jar.
Jar Jar: Yousa... I mean you tink she in a better place?
Bail looks turns around.
Cuts to Liea in the Death Star cammand room meeting Tarkin. Then flash the Death star coming out of hyper space. Cuts to Alderaan.
A man comes out to Jar Jar and Bail on the balcony.
Man: Viceroy, there is a large moon like ship out about a quarter of a parsec away.
Man: We don't know. But it's not ours.
Cuts back to Vader, Tarkin, Liea threaten scene. Then back to Alderaan as Bail and Jar Jar look at a screen of the Death Star in a command post.
Jar Jar: What is it?
Bail: It's that space station we had the rea out of.
Man: It's in firing range.
Jar Jar: (nervous) Mesa no lika diss!
Bail: So I have lived to see my people's doom?
Jar Jar: Yousa tinkin yousa peopel gonna die?
Cut to Tarkin giving the order. The laser fires.
The Alderaan people look on as the laser comes to a far way cliff and smashes into the ground. Everything begins to crumble.
Cuts to palace. Jar Jar panics as everything falls apart. Bail stands and holds his arms out as the ceiling crushes him.
Cuts to the planet exploding from the inside out. The huge astroids hit against the shields of the Death star and explodes. Then cuts to Liea's reaction. digitally add tears to her. Cuts to The Falcon and Obi-Wan.
(I think Jar Jar would be able to talk some what normal now. As for Bail's performance, Smits is a great actor.)
Han shoots first
fix title crawl
slave girl by Jabba
Imperial March at Vader's introduction
Shows Wampa eating Jar Jar
IAN! PLEASE! IS IAN TOO MUCH TO ASK FOR!
Luke practices using a lightsaber with Yoda, and Yoda fights in the same style as he did with Darth Tyranis
Any evidence that Vader recognizes one of the droids
anything about those matlines
more slave girls
fix up that music number
Add Naboo to end Celebrations
Hayden Christensen as the gohst of Anakin
What do you guys think of my ideas for the Alderaan destruction?
I'd also like to digitalyl remove the alien that buys the speeder and replace him with an old flying Toydarian. He can fly and count the cash behind Luke and Obi-Wan as they walk away. Maybe it's Watto, maybe not.
^^^Your sig is stupid, and makes you look like a retard.
Anyway, I'd include most of the minor shots clean-ups from the SE such as landspeeder hovering better, Mellinium Falcon liftofts, etc. Little stuff like that.
Fix the Rancor, maybe as well.
Also include the galactic celebration of ROTJ, *but* when it pans down to Endor, revert back to the Ewok singing, and original Anakin ghost.
Everything else that was major would be the original.
- more up to date computer panels and graphics - not too many though, since ROTS is blending the two styles
- Better Mos Eisley CGI
- Fix Jabba
- Han fires first
- More exterior shots of ships
- Rework all the shown
- More shots in the Death Star trench run
- Update the lightsaber effects.
- CGI tauntuans
- Replace the stop-motion AT-ST (only the AT-ST) with a digital version
- Rework all the explosions shown
- Again, bring the computer graphics into line
- Get rid of Luke's scream
- Get rid of the "Alert my star destroyer" line, put "Bring my shuttle" back in - but keep Vader's arrival on the Executor
- More exterior shots of the Falcon arriving on Bespin.
- More Cloud City shots.
- update the lightsaber effects.
- A CGI Vader shuttle, replacing, in my opinion, a crummy model shot.
- Update the computer graphics
- Bring back Lapti Nek, keep Snootles CGI, but update her.
- More CGI denizens in Jabba's Palace
- Rework the lightsaber effects.
- Update Fett's rocket effect.
- More Ewoks in the final battle - include more shots of Stormtroopers not acting like idiots.
- CGI a couple of the AT-ST shots
- Rework all the explosions - try to show a reason why Endor wouldn't have been incinerated by orbiting debris.
- More shots of the Battle over Endor - make it even larger and more epic.
- Keep the end music! It's great - just include the Naboo celebration
LOEK, I think your dialogue scenes with Bail and Jar Jar are terrible.
All we would ever need would be a few quick reaction shots of Bail seeing the DS rise up over the horizon and people running in terror.
People like LOEK want completely different movies.
Well, I'm not going to completely bash his sentiments and proposal. I just ask: If it ain't broke.....why fix it?
I could deal with some quick shots of Bail reacting and then show the planet blown away.
But, these long dialogue things have to end with the prequels.
They have no place within the OT.
More importantly, they're not needed.
Plutoneam, I find your personal war against me disturbing. It's not healthy to get so connected to films that you jump to insult anyone who feels differently. And I'm not talking about this Forum alone. I'm keeping my eyes on.
Back to the topic... If I had it my way the changes would be made, however I'd also release the originals with the THX fixes. So I guesse I'm not totaly satan to you purists.
Yeah, nice new sig there.
I guesse I'm not totaly satan to you purists.
Your sig leads me to think otherwise.
"May the Force be with you" is Satanic?
^^^You changed your sig, smart alec.
It said "I hate pro-originalitsts/purists/anti-SEs" or whatever you called them.
Alderaan should not be seen imerdiatly before it's destruction...it would seem a bit to cruel and I think it would seem out of place. If anything it should be seen mabye a few minutes before, and Jar Jar should not be present. This is my idea...
Insert a scene of the Emporer disolving the senate. Bail Organa is present with others possibly seen in ROTS. Bail makes a protest but is quickly shot down by Mas Ammeda or mabye one of the royal dignitaries(and by shot down I mean interupted, not actually shot). He then returns home to Alderaan where he is informed of the happenings aboard the Tantive IV and requests to speak to Lord Vader himself. Then he gets a message from Tarkin or Vader stating that the space station is on their way to Alderaan but there may not be time for a formal discussion.
People like LOEK want completely different movies.
plutoneam...read the name of this thread...it kinda implies that everyone is going to have different ideas. If thats what Loeak would like, let it be. I too love the originals but I think some added things would be nice.
Dirty-Darth, it's nothing new. Plutoneam is posting pesonal attacks against me on every thread I create. I think it's become his favorite past time.
Plutoneam, I am very proud that you simply called me a "Smart alec" instead of "stupid" or "retard." Judging from your posts in other threads, you're just not very nice.
What did you guys think of the Watto idea. It's small and doesn't change much.
The Watto idea is cool. At least insert a Toydarian somewhere..
Ian McD said that they filmed the dissolving of the senate during EP II or III cant remember btu so far they haven't added it. But I think they definatly should so then Palpitine is in all 6.
I think that was confirmed to be fake. I believe Ian was refering to the new Vader Emperor scene in ESB.
Where are these screen-shots of the new Jabba & whatnot surfacing? I'd like to see 'em.
The mods don't like it when we post links to those pictures.
Check your PM.
What Watto scene? Scenes like that with characters just makes the galaxy seem too small.
No need to tie in characters when there are other little, clever ways to do it (Battle Droid in SC not a bad idea, as an example).
Arnold Schwarzenegger could make a brief cameo appearance in the Death Star boardroom after Tarkin says "Terminator! Immediately!"
Then he can call all the Imperial Officers "girly men"
Any other ideas? Oh, if you had to edit something out of the orignals what would it be?