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Senate Your Princess Is in Another Castle: Misogyny, Entitlement, and Nerds

Discussion in 'Community' started by Heero_Yuy, May 29, 2014.

  1. Wanderguard

    Wanderguard Jedi Padawan star 1

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    Edit: Bleh, nevermind.
     
  2. beezel26

    beezel26 Jedi Master star 7

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    Sounds like the tea partiers vs the far left. With normal people in the middle just shaking their heads in confusion and sadness at the mess.
     
  3. Heero_Yuy

    Heero_Yuy Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Curse you! Feminazi lesbian!

    I really wish I could post that radio clip. Too bad the JCC is hung up on language.
     
  4. harpua

    harpua Chosen One star 9

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    It's not, really.... just post a language warning.
     
  5. Jabba-wocky

    Jabba-wocky Chosen One star 9

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    How is that unique?

    1. NRA
    2. Freedomworks
    3. Americans for Prosperity
    4. Tea Party Express
    5. Moral Majority

    etc
     
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  6. Heero_Yuy

    Heero_Yuy Jedi Grand Master star 4

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  7. Wanderguard

    Wanderguard Jedi Padawan star 1

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    I would argue that it's significantly more harmful than a few of those in particular, but point conceded on some of those. It could also be noted that some of the examples you mentioned at least have the decency to, you know, advocate, even if their causes are wrong. MRAs don't advocate, they just attack.


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  8. beezel26

    beezel26 Jedi Master star 7

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    Hey what is your thoughts on women joining the priesthood in Christian religions, especially Mormonism and Catholicism?
     
  9. harpua

    harpua Chosen One star 9

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    Anyway.... why do you ask? What are your thoughts?
     
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  10. beezel26

    beezel26 Jedi Master star 7

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    I guess for religion, they have the right to exclude women. But only when teaching from a pulpit. Outside of that woman should be able to teach. Especially on a one to one basis or whilst proselytizing.
     
  11. Ender Sai

    Ender Sai Chosen One star 10

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    One is a religion, the other a cult.
     
  12. harpua

    harpua Chosen One star 9

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    Eh... my thoughts about religion, in general, will cloud my answer , so I'll leave this one for somebody else to answer (I'll give a short one here, though--I believe that women are just as capable of teaching from a pulpit, and not allowing them to do so is retarded).

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  13. Wanderguard

    Wanderguard Jedi Padawan star 1

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    Since my extremely conservative, southern, Protestant family is inexplicably cool with my grandmother and two of my aunts being preachers, I don't hold in high regard the idea that women shouldn't be behind the pulpit. And neither do they.


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  14. Darth Guy

    Darth Guy Chosen One star 10

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    "No women priests" is more of a Catholic and Orthodox thing. Maybe a few Protestant denominations still do it? I dunno, I'm too lazy to look it up.
     
  15. Juliet316

    Juliet316 Chosen One star 10

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    Yeah, a lot of Protestant churches (and a few Baptist churches) allow female priests/preachers. Of course a majority of non - Catholic Christian churches don't insist upon their priests/preachers be celibate either.
     
  16. Wanderguard

    Wanderguard Jedi Padawan star 1

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    It's generally not an official bylaw or policy or anything in the Protestant denominations that I know of. There are certain individual churches that don't approve but it's more of a cultural thing, and thus more common in the Deep South from what I've seen.

    Edit: Celibacy, in my experience, is almost unheard of amongst Protestant pastors. All the ones I've known (my ordained father included) have been married.


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  17. Mata2010

    Mata2010 Jedi Knight star 1

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    I'm an Episcopalian and our current Presiding Bishop is a woman: Dr. Katharine Jefferts Schori. The Episcopal Church is like a mix of Protestantism and Catholicism. I was raised evangelical fundamentalist, but after I grew up and formed my own opinion, I found that they have such a profound lack of respect for women that it wasn't hard for me to leave. I could totally go on about that, but I'll just keep it short and sweet. ;) Glad to be a part of a church who is focused on equality.
     
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  18. I Are The Internets

    I Are The Internets Force Ghost star 8

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    Women should be priests dammit. Such a ****ing stupid mantra that only men can do that.
     
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  19. Rogue1-and-a-half

    Rogue1-and-a-half Manager Emeritus who is writing his masterpiece star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    My knowledge regarding women and holding a priesthood in Mormonism comes entirely from watching all five seasons of Big Love, which actually made it incredibly compelling. Let's just say Barb was a priesthood holder as far as I was concerned by the time that show ended. I know a bit more about the Catholic situation.

    I'll just say that celibacy shouldn't be a requirement for religious positions (the reasons behind that initial decision have long since faded out of importance) and gender shouldn't be an issue either.

    I do know a guy who thinks women shouldn't speak from the pulpit. But I know a ton of Protestant Christians, y'all, including some extremely conservative ones and he's the only person I've ever met in these circles that thinks that. I think it's basically a done deal in most Protestant denominations as far as that being an issue. Catholicism has quite a ways to go yet on that issue, but it'll happen eventually I'm sure. And that'll be a good thing. I don't think the barriers serve any reasonable purpose anymore. My thoughts.
     
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  20. Rogue_Ten

    Rogue_Ten Chosen One star 7

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    yes barb can hold my priesthood any day

    dont worry, the mormon church is shockingly dynamic for a religious group of their size, (perhaps oweing to the structure of it being run almost like a corporation, and perhaps also oweing the the relative youth of the religion), so i sincerely believe that after a few more cycles of quorum of 12 members you'll see women holding the priesthood
     
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  21. Rogue1-and-a-half

    Rogue1-and-a-half Manager Emeritus who is writing his masterpiece star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    God help me, I was more of a Nikki man. Why am I always attracted to the severely damaged, emotionally stunted ones?
     
  22. Mata2010

    Mata2010 Jedi Knight star 1

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    You know, it doesn't matter. Just because most protestants are okay with women priests does not mean they hold egalitarian views toward women. I truly believe that religious fundamentalists are the reason we have a problem with misogynists in our present society. And this is coming from a woman who was literally mind ****ed from that bullcrap until I went to college.
     
  23. dp4m

    dp4m Chosen One star 10

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    Unsurprisingly, I was more attracted to Snow White.
     
  24. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Nightsister of Four Realms star 9 Staff Member Manager

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    Exactly.

    And my parents are pretty liberal compared to most southeastern-US Baby Boomers, but some of the **** I was exposed to outside the home while growing up... [face_hypnotized]

    Yes, religious fundamentalists are likely most of the reason we can't have nice things.

    I feel bad for the liberal Christians who are assumed to believe that **** simply for saying that they are Christians, and are told by fundamentalists that they aren't "real Christians" because they do believe in equality.
     
  25. Mata2010

    Mata2010 Jedi Knight star 1

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    Raised in the bucket of the Bible belt: Tulsa, Oklahoma. Yeah, it's pathetic. So, very very pathetic. Now I call myself a liberal Christian, and yes I carry the burden that you speak of on a daily basis. Many of my friends and family have shunned me for it. But, you know what? I couldn't be more happier and psychologically sane.