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PT Your take on this ROTS alternate ending?

Discussion in 'Prequel Trilogy' started by Seagoat , Mar 23, 2013.

  1. Seagoat

    Seagoat Music and PT Section Sentinel star 5 Staff Member Manager

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    Just to state this now - this is NOT another PT bashing thread with "I wanted this instead!" whining. This is an idea I had the other day and I'm wondering what people would have thought had it turned out this way.

    Now here's my idea - what if we saw nothing of Vader after Obi-Wan left? We never see him put in the suit. Not only, assuming you're watching the films in order, would this preserve the mystery of Obi-Wan's retcon lie, but also the "I am your father" plot twist.

    However, I feel it would also be fairly strange seeing him appear later in the armor. What do you guys all think?

    (I apologize in advance if there is already a thread for this, I looked and could not find one)
     
  2. V-2

    V-2 Jedi Master star 4

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    Yeah this has come up even while I've been here.

    Adywan shares your point of view and in about 20 years we'll get to see his vision of the prequels realised. Maybe.
     
  3. BoromirsFan

    BoromirsFan Jedi Master star 4

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    He is referred to as Darth Vader before he gets the suit. It would be extremely obvious that its the same guy even if we don't see him in the suit. Plus The whole "history" dialogue from Ben to Luke and Ben to Vader.
     
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  4. KilroyMcFadden

    KilroyMcFadden Jedi Knight star 3

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    Yes, this totally works, and I've got a feeling Disney isn't going to wait for 20 years to release alternate edits of the PT.
     
  5. Monkeystrummer

    Monkeystrummer Jedi Youngling

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    Hey guys and gals... Im new here and this is my first post.
    I think that the prequels could have done so much more with Darth Vader.
    As an alternative ending i think that
    A) The phantom menace was irrelevant to the Darth Vader story.
    The first episode should have began with Attack of the Clones
    B) episode II would then have ended with Anakin being mangled and turned into Vader
    C) episode III should have dealt with Obi Wan discovering who Vader was, duelling with him and beating him, but not killing him and then kidnapping the twins and then Vader could
    have been seen hunting down the Jedi whilst commanding a clone army... You did not get to see suited up Vader
    Fighting, which i thought was disappointing...
    Also... I have always thought it could have been quite something had the clone wars actually been about people
    Fighting their own clones... Imagine if anakin had had to fight his own clone and killed him... Something like this
    Would have given more weight to why he might have turned to the darkside. The emperor could have cloned all the jedi and
    Commanded a dark yoda, obi wan etc... And the real anakin was somehow stuck having to kill them all
     
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  6. Klingon Padawan

    Klingon Padawan Jedi Youngling star 1

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    That's true, the suit doesn't make him Vader. Even if we don't see Anakin being put into the suit at the end of ROTS, when people watch the OT, they'll recognize the name Darth Vader. Therefore, the paternal plot twist isn't really hidden even if you watched the PT first because you already know that Vader is Anakin.

    The only way to make this idea work is to also never show Anakin being called Vader by Sidious in any scenes. Remove the scene where Anakin is knighted Darth Vader, too.
     
  7. Seagoat

    Seagoat Music and PT Section Sentinel star 5 Staff Member Manager

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    Whoa whoa, I think you misread me. This is NOT what I would have wanted instead. I love the movies as they are, but I was just thinking the other day about "What if this happened instead?"

    I've seen how this Adywan wants to butcher Lucas's masterpieces, not at ALL interested.
     
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  8. BoromirsFan

    BoromirsFan Jedi Master star 4

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    It sounds like you have read too much Dark Empire
     
  9. Skelter

    Skelter Jedi Padawan star 1

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    Who is this guy?? How did he get the rights to make changes to the prequels?
     
  10. Monkeystrummer

    Monkeystrummer Jedi Youngling

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    Well i have not read any of Dark Empire... But it sounds like maybe i should!
     
  11. DARTHSHAME

    DARTHSHAME Jedi Master star 4

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    That was the first thing I thought. Obviously, if GL was writing SW from the beginning PT, then ST he would have done things differently.
     
  12. Darth Dominikkus

    Darth Dominikkus Jedi Knight star 3

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    Seeing as the title, Darth Vader, was given to him after the death of Mace Windu, there would be no surprise as to who the armored man was in ANH.
     
  13. OldSchoolFan

    OldSchoolFan Jedi Padawan star 1

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    Even though it was inevitable that we would be shown Skywalker donning the iconic armour, I personally think that it would have been a stronger intro for the armoured Sith Lord if the scene where the helmet slid into place and the legendary beathing began was faded out and that was the last time he was seen or heard from until the entrance in ANH, where you finally see him in action striding into the fray fully armoured and completely in control!
     
  14. TheMadHatter

    TheMadHatter Jedi Knight star 4

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    just the words alternate ending gives me a headache
     
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  15. Slicer87

    Slicer87 Jedi Master star 4

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    Me too.
     
  16. DARTHVENGERDARTHSEAR

    DARTHVENGERDARTHSEAR Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Adywan in his edits is only saying what we're all thinking. The Prequels need some fine tuning, especially in the dialogue and silly antics department.
     
  17. darthbarracuda

    darthbarracuda Jedi Knight star 3

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    They should've done that and had like a flashback or something...
     
  18. Slicer87

    Slicer87 Jedi Master star 4

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    That is what you think, you don't speak for me or many others.
     
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  19. Skelter

    Skelter Jedi Padawan star 1

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    The prequels are fine the way they are, its the OT that's a mess.
     
  20. The Supreme Chancellor

    The Supreme Chancellor Jedi Master star 4

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    Would have been a cool alternate ending.
    The Pt is fine..but what about the OT is a mess?
     
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  21. janstett

    janstett Jedi Master star 3

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    Even as it is Obi-Wan never sees him in the armor. Presumably he would have heard about Vader's survival and new appearance in the intervening 20 years.
     
  22. Chewbacca89

    Chewbacca89 Jedi Master star 5

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    Is this for real?
     
  23. Jcuk

    Jcuk Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I hope so.
     
  24. DARTHVENGERDARTHSEAR

    DARTHVENGERDARTHSEAR Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    To each his own.[face_peace]
     
  25. Slicer87

    Slicer87 Jedi Master star 4

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    More likely he sensed he was Vader though the force, just like Vader sensed Oni-Wan was onboard the Death Star.