I don't know if there is a heaven. I don't know if I can trust the Bible. I don't know if there is a hell. Anyway I'm going to go all Martin Luther on you all and shake things up. What if you don't need to believe in God to be saved? What if all you are judged on is your actions and your deeds not your beliefs. For example there could be a wonderful person, someone who helps others, volunteers their time and is kind to everyone. This person with high morals does not believe in God. There could be another person who is a terrible guy. He lies, he cheats, he steals and he hurts others. However he has a lot of faith in God. So would the first guy go to hell and the second guy to heaven? If anything I would think the reverse. What if all you are judged about is your actions and how you feel about them. Not your belief in God????? Just some thoughts. And if God forgives everyone then perhaps both men would go to Heaven. -Seldon V-03 EDIT: This is a discussion that has been had numerous times before in the Senate, and I would rather not see a return to the recent interlude when we had a flood of related religion threads. So....I'm going to lock this .