Well, what can you say. When you're cutting down a tree, you don't hold back your swings in consideration of the tree's feelings. It's something that has to be done. But anyway, a non-condescending response to the thread proper: I don't think quality always translates to that "can't put the book down" feeling that so many publishers look for. Stover tends to write very "heavy" books. I love the Acts of Caine books, but I doubt I could ever read them in one sitting. Reading a Caine book-especially Blade of Tyshalle, arguably the best one- is akin to being hit repeatedly over the head with a metal pipe. It's an almost exhausting experience. Bringing another medium into it, I'd say Breaking Bad also fits this description very well. I believe I watched all ten seasons of Smallville in half the time it took for me to watch five of Breaking Bad. Does this mean I believe the former is a better show? Not in any universe. It's just that Breaking Bad is something that I couldn't binge watch, that I need to let sit so that I could fully process it. Now, a book can be masterfully written and still be a page turner. The thing is, a book can be awful and still leave you guessing (can anyone say The Da Vinci Code?). KJA, for all his faults, does know how to write a page turner. But at their core, they are- I can think of a few less condescending ways to put this, but what the hell- junk food. They have no substance, and they don't stay with you. As catherine put it, if they weren't part of a larger universe, they would be utterly forgettable.