"You're making me angry." - The Incredible Hulk Movies Thread ***Spoilers***

Discussion in 'Archive: SF&F: Films and Television' started by Jedi_Master_Conor, Aug 17, 2006.

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  1. Spiderfan Jedi Grand Master

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    It worked out for Batman and Wolverine. Granted Cap is a little different, but Barrowman, as its been stated, spent much time living in America and is quite good at playing an American, so honestly I don' see the difference. Mind you this is just a rumour that grew out of someone asking him about the role to which he responded that there had been talks with his agent. But I still think it would be an interesting choice of actor.
  2. The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth

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    So, the DVD's out. there's not much to the altermate opening (and I don't quite understand the scene- my only guess in retrospect is maybe he was trying to kill himself? but he was aiming it somewhere else) and the Captain America cameo is more of an easter egg, and you can barely see anything- there's like 2 frames where you can kinda see Cap during the avalanche, but it's easier seeing Jesus on a piece of stained toast.

    A good amount of deleted scenes, though. Mostly the subplot with the boyfriend, which has 4 or 5 scenes plus one from the end of the movie when he calls her in New York. There's also a couple scenes fleshing out the General's second in command and an alternate version of the "you will never speak to me as your daughter again" scene (it take place outside the helicopter instead of outside the college lab). Also an extended version of the scene where Betty gives him the saved data stick- we see the discusison preceeding it and following it- more talk about Mr Blue and his anarchy-like beliefs as well as mention of an ethics investigation.

    There is a scene with the General that fleshes him out quite that I wish ahd stayed in (where he comapres what he's doing to those who first mastered fire instead of fearing it), as well as another with the black military officer who comments that Blonsky's performance before he got taken down by the Hulk on the campus reminded him of something he'd heard of before- something they'd "like to forget".

    Also, I totally didn't get the Stanley/Stan Lee connection until now- I wonder if Stan was origianlly supposed to play that role instead of the soda pop victim? The actor playing Stanley certainly looks kinda like him.
  3. FallenKnight88 Jedi Knight

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    Bruce Banner was trying to kill himself but the Hulk wouldn't let him. It all goes back to the idea that Bruce hates the Hulk and vice versa.
  4. Jedi_Keiran_Halcyon Jedi Grand Master

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    I'm sorry that Norton disagrees, but I think the film is better off without just about every one of the deleted scenes. They extended the story without really enhancing it.

    The extra scenes with side characters were overkill. Betty's boyfriend is almost exactly the same character with the deleted scenes as without. Keeping those scenes in would just make that section of the film drag on too long.

    I thought Ross's philosophizing was pretentious and dull. Nor did I particularly care for the extended dialogue before the campus fight with Bruce doing his best Ian Malcolm impersonation.

    The scenes aren't particularly BAD (okay, a few have some clunky delivery), they just seem unnecessary. Part of me wishes the pizza delivery scenes were left in, but the film's fine without them. I'd be interested in seeing a cut of the film with all the deleted scenes edited back in, just to see if it hurts the pace of the film as much as I think it would.

    This film was my favorite movie of the entire summer (Yes, I liked it more than Iron Man or The Dark Knight). Leterrier (and/or his editors) did a fantastic job of trimming the fat from a film that could've ended up as a poorly paced and pretentious mess. Nothing substantial was lost in any of the cuts, and the gain in terms of an improved momentum is immense.

    Aside from the tag at the end with Tony Stark, The Incredible Hulk is the first comic book movie since Tim Burton's Batman to leave me wanting to rewatch the film more than wanting to see the sequel. It's a complete film, with a beginning, middle, and end. And in this day of super-franchises, that's INCREDIBLE.
  5. The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth

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    I think the boyfriend subplot enhances Betty's character, though. It builds up to that epilogue conversation which i think gives her more of a character arc, and also gives Betty and Banner more time together before she runs off with him. They don't need to put all of the boyfriend's scenes back in, but they probably should have kept one or two- as it's very noticable and almost distracting how he sort of just dissapears.

    I could have done without the pizza stuff- the sorority girls one dragged on too long and the reuse of "you wouldn't like me when i'm angry" was a bit forced and diminishes the superior "nungry" joke earlier in the film. Plus the really weird guy he gives the last pizza to should have been dropped entirely- I'm perplexed why they even kept that one shot of him in the final movie, as that always felt weird to me.

    Also, keep in mind we're probably no seeing all of the deleted scenes here- reports were there was much more cut and only some was on this DVD, so perhaps "Norton's cut" isn't fully represented here.
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