JCC Embrace The FU - Formerly the STAR WARS IS BAD thread

FTFY

 

Most of the titles are very straightforward and pulpy. The Empire Strikes Back? Really? Very straightforward. It was only with the prequels that Lucas was too clever with the titles(The Phantom Menace).

I just want a good movie.

The Last Jedi is simple and plain but still good.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/19/...charity-commission-for-england-and-wales.html

I missed this story the first time around last year, but NYT brought it up again in reference to the new title.

boo

 

Oh come on.

 

Those people shame fandom entirely.

 

seems as good as any other religion. The Pretestament, Original Testament and Posttestament

 

Surely their religion should be The Force

 

Jesus **** Richard, really?

How is it in a contest of wits between a garbage bag full of rags and you, you always lose?

The Force is not a religion. It is an energy field. The films are really clear about this. Like to the point of calling it just that.

Religions are what attempt to interpret the Force, and prescribe rules around it.

I just... I mean... seriously. Box of hammers.

 

anti-jediist persecution is to be expected from the unenlightened. But we won't be order sixty-sixed any longer.

 

lol. WTF SithLordDarthRitchie?

The Forcists? Jedi and Sith both look at the thing called the Force. The Force just is. The Jedi and Sith are the religions.

 

dp4m, I don't know where you posted about this either. Sorry mate.

 

The next person to tag me in this thread gets reported. I don't want spoilers, I don't want to participate in this discussion. Thanks!

 

Aw crap. Wrong post for dp.

Report me. I dare ya.

 

I'm not sure about the title, I don't like them using "Jedi" again.

But it does seem to confirm that Luke is no longer interested in the Jedi coming back, and wants instead something new to rise. Which is something I have mixed feelings on. You can radically reform the Jedi, and still call them Jedi.

And Jedi/Sith aren't religions. They're organizations with lore and training in a scientifically-observable force of nature.

In TCW, they mentioned how the Jedi defeated Mandalore in a minor war some 800 years before the Clone Wars, that most of the galaxy didn't think was remarkable because they still call that the 1000 years of peace.

 

people claiming to follow the jedi religion should just change their name to "the accidental taoists", and buy some guitars because people will be expecting a band when they show up for their meetings.

 

Ghost can this please be a haven from your uniquely erroneous way of (mis)understanding the world? Please see below and note how it says "especially", which is a way of highlighting something's importance and not a prescriptive term meaning to the exclusion of all other variables:


religion
rɪˈlɪdʒ(ə)n/
noun
noun: religion

1. the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods.

​

 

That's not what the Jedi or Sith are.

They don't believe, they directly observe and sense and manipulate.

They don't worship.

They don't believe it's superhuman or supernatural, but part of the natural living world, generated by life.

They don't believe in personal gods.

 

Ghost, you don't have to believe in a God or deity. They worship the Force. You can also worship nature as part of your religion so being part of the natural world doesn't mean it's not a religion(just ask the Japanese Shinto).

Tarkin: You my friend(to Vader) are all that's left of their religion.

Han: Hokey religions are no match for a good blaster at your side.

 

If I understand correctly, as Rogue One showed, there's all sorts of religions and sects around the Force.

However.

Ken was talking about a real world pun.
No debate needed, no enlightenment necessary.

 

Worship is the ritualistic act of showing reverence for something.

I give you 13/10 Spicers for your alternative facts though tiger.

 

Maybe some tenets of the Force itself, but Jedi and Sith are more like organizations than religions. They're not exactly open to the wider galaxy. Something like the Church of the Force, that we see at the beginning of TFA, or alluded to in R1, that's a religion. But calling the Jedi a religion is like calling the Knights Templar a religion, but even more of a stretch. As I pointed out, not all components of that definition work.

 

I have seen fake houseplants on one of my many "it's not punishment, it's fun" trips to Ikea with better grasps of basic concepts.

The Jedi are a religion. This is verified in universe. Whether they meet the summer dream/Spicer concept of religion is not only utterly immaterial but a spectacular waste of time, worshipping at the alter of factual inaccuracy. Please just stop.

 

All established churches have organizations or are organizations. Being an organization doesn't mean it's not a religion. In fact, it's a sure sign of one.

 

To use that example, the Knights Templar aren't a religion. But they were all supposed to be Christians.

The Sith and the Jedi don't look for converts. They are more like monks or paramilitary organizations.

 

WTF Ghost? What movies have you watched? Did you watch the SW movies?

Okay, this discussion is over. You are either being purposefully difficult or are just short a full grasp of what you are even saying.