JCC Embrace The FU - Formerly the STAR WARS IS BAD thread

Didn't you say you were going elsewhere?

 

all are welcome. cross over to the light 2K-D2.

 

I was.

 

Is there a coherent defence of the prequels which doesn't involve having to add in layers of interpretation inherently absent from the narrative - explicitly or implicitly - in order to make it work?

 

No.

 

Yes I know this Vivec, it was more my way of saying that Random Astromech Droid Name hadn't done much in the way of his promised "g37 r3k7" nonsense and he should try it?

 

He did.
But he didn't realize he was defending a scene, he thought he was defending random bits.
Make of that what you will.

 

Define "defence".

Why should I do "much" on a fluff thread like this?

I "thought" I "defended" "random bits"?


You're making less sense than Pyrogenic.

 

It's no fluff thread, pinned to the top thusly. That's a sure sign of seriousness.

 

It's a load ay huff'n'fluff.

 

Yes and as adults we accepted the prequels were utterly naff and a distraction. We are grateful that they were as stupid, bloated, awful and terrible as they were because it's given us Rogue One and TFA. But that's about it.

 

Would we not have got those anyway?
The poor quality of the Prequels didn't stop Disney buying the franchise. Had they been as great as the OT then Disney likely would have tried much earlier

 

Richard, there was a sense of a rescue mission with TFA; we have to make it good, because Revenge of the **** and Attack of the Drones were still busy ****ing the joy of the franchise into the ground with its paper thin characters being the focus of all saga related merchandise.

By which I mean, that the Clone Wars cartoon was better than the films doesn't meant it was good. It just means the bar was so low they couldn't fall over it.

 

He got to see an early cut. He passed away Sunday.

 

Looks like the quality of the PT can be ascertained by looking at the quality of posts from those who expound it.

 

Obviously it was so good that you had to "tl;dr" it


"Hey, man, here's my criticism, see? you can't explain that!
....."
"Here's how it's wrong".
"oh, um.... oh! didn't read lol"

Look, you couldn't defend your opinion if you tried, alright?

You can hide behind this thread, saying "we don't do discus here LOL", but if you were on a proper thread somewhere where people DID discuss, you wouldn't be able to defend your opinion.

No one can.


So, that'd be a response to all your future "beyting"

 

If you can be bothered we've been over it in detail before, and without the added benefit of borderline illiteracy trying to defend the indefensible with passive-aggressive annoyance.

You're 722 pages in, and assuming the topic never came up before. Good job mate.

 

2K, I have now had the time to read your wordy reply. It was bizarre. You judged every line in a scene I posted separately, totally oblivious to the direct context - while the context there is the prequels' biggest fault. You must truly love these films, to be able to lose yourself in details on that level.

I guess there was a time many of the people here did that. But then we looked at the bigger picture, and we came here. Welcome.

 

Wait, I thought you said "nah man this is just a thread for chillin', we don't like pretentious stuff here" - but now it's "we've all made points and that's why"?
Wow - lots of cognitive dissonance here it seems...


So.. you've had 722 pages of going over it "in detail" huh?
I bet this post here is the best critical piece on these movies on all of these 722 pages.

That "in detail going" never holds much water - I've seen things, I've been places, trust me. ;-)

According to Ender, who liked your post, obviously you all for 722 pages

 

Did you parents especially hate you, or was it more they were just unable to provide you with a basic, let alone good, education?

I'm genuinely curious here.

 

2k, you said it in your own "defense" of the prequels. they aren't the terrible train wrecks that people want to make them out to be, the prequels are mediocre. that was apparently the best defense you could muster. not exactly high praise. unfortunately, and this might sound paradoxical, being mediocre is what makes them terrible. there is nothing more boring than mediocrity, and no worse fate for the franchise could have been imaginable to those of us raised on the ot. at least a spectacular failure would have been interesting. that would have been something to talk about. instead we have the most insistent defenders of mediocrity i have ever encountered, and the rest of us who really don't need to relive the spiritless, mind-numbing experience. i haven't watched a prequel since 2005. i'm unlikely to ever watch one again. why would i want to keep talking about them? it's fine if people like them, and i will exercise my right to think those people are weird and not talk to them.

 

I get up 30 minutes early each day just so I can hate the prequels longer.

Pretty much the only thing I'd salvage is the music, especially the TPM score. I wish I could listen to it without getting 'Nam flashbacks though. It's telling that the scores get butchered in the films, AOTC notably. Bizarre cut-ups, stray cues, chunks missing, and so forth. It sometimes sounds as if you're inside the head of a crazy person.

 

Wait... the jarring tonal shift was actually the point of your post??

Well gee, I wish I'd guessed that correclty, then I wouldn't have proceeded to make that very point, in an elaborate form, in my response

"The context" was the main point of my post - and, unlike your post apparently, mine didn't rely on people to guess its meaning.

So... I'm oblivious to context huh? You've read that post 3 times now - that's more than enough to at least have gotten the basic jist of it, don't you think?

Christ.



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I don't "muster" anything, I just do proper film critique - unlike you

When people say "mediocre is the most terrible", what they mean is that... oh wait here you're explaining it anyway:

...

Well as I was saying, what they mean is that actual horrible quality is more memorable, entertaining, or provides more opportunity to make fun of - doesn't go for every kind of horrible movie though; weird bizarre horror flicks, yes, Life of Timothy Green, NO.
I'd prefer that horrendous singing scene to have been mediocre, rather than the complete abortion it was.

Point is, what I'm about is film criticism - "average"/"horrendous" is the verdict, and "therefore horrible for franchise"/"at least spectacular lol" is up to the people and how they want their "ironic bad movie session".

That part doesn't really concern me that much - the verdict is what's important, and if the verdict is "5%", then it's nonsense.

Well, you people are calling it a spectacular failure - so pick one already.

People talk about it all the time - like you right now

Hey, at least right now I'm euphoric at being a better film critic than you, and having more focused thought than you

Then don't

Why did you write this?

That's just the last act, thoe.

 

I posted a scene and said it sucked.
You have convinced nobody that it doesn't.