JCC Embrace The FU - Formerly the STAR WARS IS BAD thread

I think if we go Room 237 we have to start contending the Prequels predicted the future. [Insert 2016 election joke].

 

Palpatine is running against Jar Jar Binks?

 

Nooooooooooo!

Michael Leader, the Stormtrooper who bumped his head on the DS has died.

 

These fans might be more bitter about their God no longer being in charge of the series.

 

TPM was pretty successful back in the day. I don't think a SW movie making lots of money is the problem. It's good for the franchise.

Although TFA is too much of an ANH remake for my liking, it's way more watchable than the PT movies.

Maybe Rogue One will be the great equaliser. Enough references to the Prequels but styled just like the OT.

 

I think the symbolism stuff should be more "icing on the cake" rather than the main course. Like if all that symbolism is there in place of actual substance, then it's not gonna be too enjoyable of a movie. Unless of course you happen to prioritize that stuff; then it'll be the best movie in the world! But for me, if a movie is like a pyramid, then believable/interesting characters and story should be at the base creating the foundation, whereas something like ring theory would be the upper-most piece & not really necessary for the rest of the structure to stand (kind of like this very post, since I used a metaphor that was ultimately not necessary to make my point).

 

Subtext and symbolism are fine, just like how Kylo Ren is right that his lightsaber looks totally rad. It's when they're conflated with value and quality that appraisals derail, and that's the major problem when they usually come up in internet discussions - just like how Kylo Ren's lightsaber is unstable and a bit crappy.

What I'm getting at here is I really like Kylo Ren's lightsaber.

 

This is so like when that film God's not dead came out.

 

I remember something Lucas said at the time. I don't remember when, might have even been before TPM came out. He said - lol - he said that he wanted to make the characters more like 1930s and 1940s characters, more aloof and more elaborate. After all, this would be about civilization! Whereas all we'd seen in the OT was junk.

He took it too far. What a strange, costly, financially succesful but critically utterly failed adventure. I'll admit I think it's courageous. To turn Star Wars into a big-budget arthouse project. But it's so jarring, and that's why it fails.

 

Yeah, I honestly admire what Lucas was trying to do. I even suspect that he was trying to, in his own way, make an anti-war trilogy. Kill his own monster, basically.

It just didn't work out. The result is disastrous.

 

Kylo Ren is the best Star Wars villain we've had in a long time.

 

Nonsense, think about all those memorable post-PT EU villains like...

... Um... that one guy! Who did the stuff! The villainous stuff. He sure was distinct.

 

You mean Glork Karblop.

 

I can't even tell if that's a joke.

 

I liked it when Glork kept sneezing.

 

It was way better than Grievous' coughing.

 

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Nice box.