Zuckuss is a droid?

I was watching TESB this afternoon, and I noticed something I've never seen before. On Bespin, when Chewie is trying to retrieve C-3PO from the Ugnaughts, look to the right of the screen. There is a droid, a "Zuckuss" just sitting there. He's more silver/chrome than the brown one from the Star Destroyer, but it looks JUST like him. I had always thought that 4-LOM was a droid and that Zuckuss was organic with some mechanical apparatus for breathing, but it is apparent that Zuckuss is also a model of droid.

 

I never noticed a "Zuckuss" in that scene. But Zuckuss the bounty hunter is a Gand. He has to wear the breathing mask when he's in oxygen environments because oxygen is posionous to Gands.

 

Zuckuss is a Gand. He also wears breathing gear - something a droid wouldn't need.

 

You're confusing Zuckuss and 4LOM.Darths Bane and Lassic are correct. Zuckuss belongs to a race known as the Gand.

 

I always did notice an IG88 droid in that scene many years before reading Tales of the Bounty Hunters.

 

When ESB first came out, and also in the figures line, Zuckus was the droid and 4-Lom was the one in the brown robe with the breathing mask.

Sometime around the mid 90's "they" (whoever they are) changed this around to make the droid the one with the alpha numeric name, rather more apropriate...

Anyway, They just re-used props for the Bespin room, which is why we also see a droid in Jabba's torture room that was also seen in Echo base, identical right down to the dirt marks on it's torso.

It's called film making on a tight budget.

 

So, it's actually a 4-LOM in there?
I thought that either rising was seeing things or there really was a lifeless Gand in there. Creepy thought.

 

Just checked, and yeah, when Chewie goes into the room to get Threepio's bits back, when you see the IG-88 prop, the insectoid faced droid is in there as well, just to the right of the IG.

 

who is zuckuss again? which one in ESB?

 

the one to the very right

and, the obligatory CCG card:

[image=http://www.decipher.com/starwars/cardlists/dagobah/dark/images/zuckuss.gif]

sorry, Quest

 

yes, i remember back when the little squatty one was 4-lom. that whole switch buissness has never sat right with me, just calling him zuckuss because the other one's a droid. what a pile of crap.

 

I just watched the scene again to make sure it wasn't a 4-LOM droid. There is no mistaking it, it's the same as Zuckuss. It has the same bulbous eyes as 4-LOM, but even has the large round object between the eyes that Zuckuss has. So, either Cloud City has yet ANOTHER dead bounty hunter to explain, or the EU has made a very large mistake by trying to write off a droid as an organism. I never liked the whole Zuckuss/4-LOM relationship in the books anyway. It's like the writer thought, "hey, they both have bug eyes, and they're standing next to each other, lets run with that!"

 

The zuckuss and 4-LOM heads are pretty much identical.
A "dead" droid, if there even is one in that scene, would be a 4-LOM type.

 

Actually, no reason they can't both be droids anyway, one of them's just wearing a robe of some kind.

 

So it that entire piece a helmet that a Gand wears over his skin? I had always thought that they were an insect-looking species, and that he just had respirators going into that large socket between his eyes. From the looks of that pic, the entire top portion of the body is a module which resembles a droid. Either that, or a Gand has been cut in half and put in the dumpster. They probably should have put a 4-LOM model in that room if the set designers just needed some filler, because now the entire concept of Gand=organic being is shot. 4-LOM and Zuckuss were both droids. The EU writers should have researched that scene a little better, IMO.

 

Zuckuss was once 4-lom and 4-lom was once zuckuss. All because of the action figure, some were molto confused!!

 

Like Quest said, it was just Kenner making a mistake with their action figures not Lucas.

 

They probablythought that noone would be bored enough, or one day have the technology to frame by frame and then get on something called the "internet" and lose sleep over it...

 

Cool...I never noticed that before.

I agree with TheSecondQuest...that is most likely just a Gand respirator helmet and suit sitting there.

Zuckuss was never intended to be a droid. When planning the bounty hunter scene for ESB, the concept designs for the six characters were Boba Fett, Lizard Face, Phlutdroid (IG-88), another droid, a human, and a Lobster Face. Zuckuss was the Lobster Face.

I don't think it's ever been established in the EU how much of what we see is Zuckuss and how much is his suit. I've always thought it was a helmet and underneath is a bug-eyed alien with a mouth.

 

Zuckuss is like Plo Koon in the sense that he has to wear a gas mask. The only droids are 1G-88 and 4-LOM.

 

I remember when they made that change with Zuckuss and 4LOMs names. Man that one messed with my head for a bit. Whenever I watch the movie 4LOM is still the guy in the robe, and Zuckuss is still the robot.