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Spiderfan
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5/9/07 6:39am
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RE: Spider-man 3 ***Possible Spoilers***
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Styrofoam_Guy posted:
The hair thing for Peter was a bit too much. Oooo hair down plus eyeliner = evil. Also the dancing in the street and the jazz thing. Evil = can play the piano.
Well he isn't supposed to be evil. The black suit certainly brings out the darker qualities of the person wearing it, but the idea is that its letting go of Peter's inhibitions so all those things he wants to do but doesn't he is now able to do...like dressing emo, dancing, strutting and playing the piano...ok so its not great...but its not supposed to be evil.
Styrofoam_Guy posted:
And the butler thing? Oh I have been your butler since you were a baby and I knew that Spiderman did not kill your father but I never told you in all the years you hated Spiderman until this point in time just for plot development.
He's old...maybe he forgot? 
Styrofoam_Guy posted:
Sandman - Ok I understand you want to make the villians more then 2D cutouts but the way it was executed I think it failed.
Well I loved his performance and the idea of him being a father and trying to steal to save his daughter. But his purpose in the film was created entirely to give Peter someone to forgive...cept Pete's not supposed to forgive...he is supposed to turn that burden into guilt and wear that on his shoulders for the rest of his life.
Styrofoam_Guy posted:
The opening graphic sequence? I but the budget for that cost more then what most people have for an entire movie.
Well it wasn't even that well done. The previous films blew me away with their openings, particularly 2...Alex Ross's art was breathtaking. They just repeated the same thing but with live action footage that felt like they were going back to the well. Don't get me started on the closing. 
Styrofoam_Guy posted:
I kept thinking "This cost $250 Million????"
I don't think they will make a profit.
Its already pulled in $375 million worldwide in just its opening weekend. I think its doing alright. Though that may taper off quickly over the weekend.
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Styrofoam_Guy
Title: FF City Rep Toronto, ON Canada
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Date Posted:
5/11/07 5:49am
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OK the not evil thing makes more sense but still the entire sequence didn't feel like it was done correctly
Yes the guy who played sandman was great. The daughter thing just seems to have been inserted into the movie. You are right about the forgiveness thing. There didn't seem as much burden on Spiderman's/Peter's shoulders as in the other movies. Maybe htat is what is lacking in this movie that makes it not seem right.
Well the sales seem to be there so it does look like there will be a number 4. However I hope that the amount of criticism makes them sit up and take notice that if they do not produce quality movies, they will turn it into a farce like the original Batman and Superman movie series.
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DaleSabers
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5/11/07 12:50pm
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hey has anyone ever noticed that in the movies the word venom is never mentioned yet sandman and spiderman are mentioned several times. Like in the previous movies the characters were either named themselves or Jameson would name them. Also the whole black suit looked completely retarded. They should've had the costume like they have it in the comics and games. The whole raised webbing on the black suit just didn't work well.
also does anyone know if the sample that connors has was taken back? Cause if it wasn't then I think they may have the next movie with carnage in it.
And another thing how the hell did the symbiote grow so big at the end of the film? does it grow from feeding off the hosts or from exposure of the wearers hatred and anger?
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Spiderfan
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DaleSabers posted:
hey has anyone ever noticed that in the movies the word venom is never mentioned yet sandman and spiderman are mentioned several times. Like in the previous movies the characters were either named themselves or Jameson would name them.
Actually IIRC no one named themselves. They were all named by someone else, generally someone in the media. Peter wanted to call himself the Human Spider but Bruce Campbell as the Ring Announcer adlibbed and named him The Amazing Spider-man. Jameson went about naming both Ock and The Green Goblin
DaleSabers posted:
Also the whole black suit looked completely retarded. They should've had the costume like they have it in the comics and games. The whole raised webbing on the black suit just didn't work well.
Like the comics, cartoons and games the Venom version of the symbiont was meant to be a corrupted version of the design Spider-man wore when the costume was combined with him...it was used by Venom to sneak up on MJ and scare her as the familiar costume slowly warped into something more menacing. Rather then change the costume in the movie, the costume designers thought that it would be better if the Spidey symbiont costume looked the same only black, rather then changing it to something different. I was a fan of the Venom design incorporating the movie costume with the Venom comic variation (disturbed eyes, sprawling spider symbol that reaches right around him).
DaleSabers posted:
also does anyone know if the sample that connors has was taken back? Cause if it wasn't then I think they may have the next movie with carnage in it.
I do believe Connors has the sample still so its likely it could be Carnage, but since the only signed to the 4th film right now is the writer and he is sitll int he early stages of the script its still hard to say who the villain will be. speculation includes the return of concepts previously abandoned on One and Two (Black Cat, Lizard, Vulture) and right now the fan favorite seems to be Kraven. Personally my money is on Lizard.
DaleSabers posted:
And another thing how the hell did the symbiote grow so big at the end of the film? does it grow from feeding off the hosts or from exposure of the wearers hatred and anger?
The symbiot has many wonderous abilities. It can shrink to the size of a pin hole so as not to be noticed on its host or grow large enough to cover its host. It can also add mass or change its appearance to look like street clothes. Its only capable however of forming organic weapons (Teeth, Claws, Webbing) unlike its earthly born offspring Carnage who is able to for, non-organic weaponry (blades).
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grey_starr
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5/12/07 7:12pm
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I'd like Electro and/or Rhino... hehe...
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Styrofoam_Guy
Title: FF City Rep Toronto, ON Canada
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5/14/07 5:43am
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Electro or Vulture would be good ones.
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Spiderfan
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Date Posted:
5/14/07 6:08am
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Styrofoam_Guy posted:
Electro or Vulture would be good ones.
Rumours state the Vulture was supposed to be the third villain in earlier drafts rather then Venom but Arad talked it over with Raimi and convinced him that Venom's story fits better into the story and the theme he was going for.
While Electro is arguable my favorite Rogue, he is unfortunately someone who gets almost no respect...meaning I highly doubt he will be much more then just a cameo...
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