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Bylar
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PLEASE JUST WATCH THIS VIDEO FROM YOUTUBE, IT WILL DEFINATELY CHANGE THE WORLD
SALTWATER BURNS, THIS CAN SOLVE THE WORLDS DEPENDENCY ON FOSSIL FULES AND REVERSE GLOBAL WARMING
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6vSxR6UKFM
SPREAD THE WORD SO THE OIL INDUSTRY CAN'T STOP IT
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thatsMISTERwookiee
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I wish him luck. This guy is YEARS, maybe even decades, away from making a practical engine device.
Question: How much energy does he use to power his "radiowave device" in order to make that tiny flame that then drives the tiny engine only two minutes?
For the time being, if you want to drive green, I'd stick to fuel cells. Burns hydrogen, gives off water.
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Bylar
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thatsMISTERwookiee posted:
I wish him luck. This guy is YEARS, maybe even decades, away from making a practical engine device.
Question: How much energy does he use to power his "radiowave device" in order to make that tiny flame that then drives the tiny engine only two minutes?
For the time being, if you want to drive green, I'd stick to fuel cells. Burns hydrogen, gives off water.
Jack,
what you are failing to see is that with some modifications most gas engines can be converted to hydrogen, and with this discovery, there is no need for explosive fuel cells. that has been the problem with hydorgen cells, the hindenburg factor, and all u need with this is saltwater, the seperation of hydrogen and oxygen occurs in the cylinder. with the engines we have now, of course the saltwater will eventually corrode the metals, but the next gen motors could b made with high temp polymers or ceramics or any other heat and corrosion resistant materials
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I'd love to say this is going to change the world, but the truth is, there have been discoveries more revolutionary and efficient than this and would stop our dependence on fossil fuels, but nobody wants to spend the money to actually get it off the ground. For example, there is an engine that was invented that run off of nothing but Hydrogen, and they even created a successful prototype car, but the entire thing would be too expensive to start mass producing them.
Plus, I only see problems with this: One, it would make a saltwater shortage, if it actually was widely used, and Two, I don't really understand how a billion little 3000 degree fires is going to stop global warming.
It's all about the money, and I would bet you my life that this doesn't get much farther.
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Bylar posted:
thatsMISTERwookiee posted:
I wish him luck. This guy is YEARS, maybe even decades, away from making a practical engine device.
Question: How much energy does he use to power his "radiowave device" in order to make that tiny flame that then drives the tiny engine only two minutes?
For the time being, if you want to drive green, I'd stick to fuel cells. Burns hydrogen, gives off water.
Jack,
what you are failing to see is that with some modifications most gas engines can be converted to hydrogen, and with this discovery, there is no need for explosive fuel cells. that has been the problem with hydorgen cells, the hindenburg factor, and all u need with this is saltwater, the seperation of hydrogen and oxygen occurs in the cylinder. with the engines we have now, of course the saltwater will eventually corrode the metals, but the next gen motors could b made with high temp polymers or ceramics or any other heat and corrosion resistant materials
What you are failing to see is that salt water WILL NOT BURN unless it is in the middle of his "radiowave device". That is what would have to be powered in order to get the saltwater to a state where it will burn. That device would have to fit into a car AND HAVE A POWER SOURCE that in turn would enable it to cause the saltwater to burn.
This is not about converting engines to run on saltwater, this is about putting the mechanism in place with a power source to run the mechanism in order to allow the saltwater to burn in an engine.
The devil is always in the details.
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Bylar
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this is the thing guys, the size of the radio freq generator would not have to be as big as the one he has. it can be very small infact, the size of a matchbox even. the saltwater would go into the cylinder and be subject to the radio waves and cause combustion of the hydrogen. like i said b4 the hydrogen engines we have now are powered by an explosive cell, even if the hydrogen is seperated prior to the cylinder, it still has to have a volitile holding cell. as far as powering the raido transimtter...c'mon guys we all have a stero in our cars dont we????? there is an alternator/generator that can still be powered in the same way as they do now by the rpm's of the motor itself using the belts. this can be done very inexpensively, and the earth is 2/3's saltwater and there would not be a "saltwater shortage" mike lol. even salt put into tap water will work. there would not need to be the little "engines" as you said Mike, that was only for thier demonstration purposes. Jack i know you are trying to be practicle, but isint it Mike's job to b the "nay sayer"? lol
this can and will work, its the most inexpensive and applicable idea that has come out regarding this issue. just please send the link to everyone you know and believe me sometime soon we will start seeing the first conversion kits available.
the size of a matchbox even
k after i did some rough calculations the device of the transmitter would have to be the size of a CB radio. the available line of signal amps typically called "kickers" would work for this, just time it like the spark plugs are, one cylinder gets the shot of saltwater, then the transimitter fires then switches to the next cylinder thats how most of the existing engine componants would work, however the motoroil may still be needed initially, but with the current studies about bio-based oil could lead to changes there as well
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I have learned to be a skeptical, having been burned too many times in my past by dewy-eyed innocence. Hence, I have on occasion refered to myself as the "wet blanket wookiee".
All I am going on is the video reports, which said nothing (that I saw) about how much power it would take to operate the "radiowave device".
I'm not saying this device cannot be refined and developed into a practical device for automobiles, but I am curious as to how much energy was needed to cause the salt water to be able to burn and run a child's TOY for only two minutes. A toy steam engine is a HUGE distance from powering an automobile.
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Interesting idea...the hydrogen bonding in water does hold a lot of energy (as do the ionic bonds in the salt crystals). I am curious how much power is required to run that radio wave device though and what the reaction for the process is (ie what is actually burning and what are the products).
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thatsMISTERwookiee posted:
I have learned to be a skeptical, having been burned too many times in my past by dewy-eyed innocence. Hence, I have on occasion refered to myself as the "wet blanket wookiee".
All I am going on is the video reports, which said nothing (that I saw) about how much power it would take to operate the "radiowave device".
I'm not saying this device cannot be refined and developed into a practical device for automobiles, but I am curious as to how much energy was needed to cause the salt water to be able to burn and run a child's TOY for only two minutes. A toy steam engine is a HUGE distance from powering an automobile.
hmmmm i think i figured out what the deal is.....
Jack, do you happen to own oil stocks in your portfolio???? lol j/k
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JediObiKat posted:
Interesting idea...the hydrogen bonding in water does hold a lot of energy (as do the ionic bonds in the salt crystals). I am curious how much power is required to run that radio wave device though and what the reaction for the process is (ie what is actually burning and what are the products).
from what i can gather its the salt molecules heated up by the high frequency radio waves that causes the molecular bonds that hold the hydrogen and oxygen molecules together to break down and the heated salt molecules are so hot the cause the hydrogen to burn. of course the oxygen is burning as well. i dont think the salt is actually burned off, but is probably returning to a solid. of course i will have to make some modifications to my 88 lincoln towncar's 5.0 liter engine to know for sure. the thing im trying to figure out is how to shield the cylinders from the RF so that only one at a time is exposed to the high freq RF and also to shield the main computer chip in the engine. been checkin some 3000 watt messingers (RF amp), they used to be much cheaper in the 80's lol. i have had some experience with peaking and tweaking CB gear so i got some what of a clue in the RF (radio frequency)world.
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In the Spirit of like mindedness and cooperation, here's another Motor on youtube.com under the Perendev Motor. All Magnets with plenty of adjustable speed and massive torgue. They're tooling up for mass production out of Johanisburg, South Africa. The inventer says he can make kits for cars like the hybreeds to replace the fuel burning engine part of the component. We are very close to beating them (the oils companies) at last. Hurraah!!
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Bylar posted:
thatsMISTERwookiee posted:
I have learned to be a skeptical, having been burned too many times in my past by dewy-eyed innocence. Hence, I have on occasion refered to myself as the "wet blanket wookiee".
All I am going on is the video reports, which said nothing (that I saw) about how much power it would take to operate the "radiowave device".
I'm not saying this device cannot be refined and developed into a practical device for automobiles, but I am curious as to how much energy was needed to cause the salt water to be able to burn and run a child's TOY for only two minutes. A toy steam engine is a HUGE distance from powering an automobile.
hmmmm i think i figured out what the deal is.....
Jack, do you happen to own oil stocks in your portfolio???? lol j/k
Having read everything you have posted I take it that you also haven't got a clue as to how much energy the "radiowave device" is sucking up in order to heat the salt to a high enough temperature to separate and burn the hydrogen and oxygen. I have often heard it said that given enough thrust(energy) even a brick can be made to fly, yet I have never seen a plane built of bricks because it is not PRACTICAL.You also haven't explained how to flush out the salt/mineral residue from the engine cylinders so that they don't clog up. Details, Bylar, details are what will determine the PRACTICALITY of this invention.
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I don't know a lot about all of this.. but I am all for it, I have watched one show one night for two hours and while I did not understand a lot of it there were a lot of scientific names that I recognized that were 100% behind the man's plan and said he already had a working engine. I would love to hear more about it.
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I'm still hoping they invent the milk engine. Then I'm going to get me some cows. 
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I held a mug of saltwater over a radio but nothing happened. I probably should've put it on Rush Limbaugh instead of NPR - more hot air.
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padumavati posted:
I held a mug of saltwater over a radio but nothing happened. I probably should've put it on Rush Limbaugh instead of NPR - more hot air.
 
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