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SithLordDarthRichie
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Date Posted:
6/30 4:08pm
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RE: Dr.Who
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Spoilers are a tricky thing. I find if many sites are posting the same ones a lot then it's very possible they're true. However, as said since no-one outside the BBC has seen the episode no-one can say for definate what is going to happen, regardless of how accurate spoilers from unofficial sites are supposed to be.
I've seen a site that claims to know what will happen in the 2010 series, I can't really think they've thought that far ahead, they're working on Davies' specials. Moffatt will do his own thing & I assume he'll wait until Davies goes before he starts working on his stuff.
As for the episode, I enjoyed it (hard not to, Daleks are worth the licence fee even if they are over-used) and the nostalgia of having Davros was a welcome feeling. He certainly looks better then he ever did in the old series (if Davros can actually look good).
Caan was good, and I assume his role will be more so in the finale then simply jabbering non-stop. I can see him once more being the lone escapee or something to that effect.
It was good to see all of the spin-offs come together. I disagree that there was no place for Sarah Jane, Elizabeth Sladen acts the spots of pretty much everyone else (exceptions being Tennant, Bleach & Nick Briggs). I hope K-9 will appear, he is the best companion.
This episode raised many questions:
Why did Caan save Davros, the enemy of the Emperor to whom he is loyal?
What was Davros' role in the Time War if the Emperor was in charge?
What is the Crucible & what does it do?
What do the 27 planets power?
What exactly are the Shadow Proclamation, what do they do?
What does the Ostahagen Key do?
What is the Copper Foundation & does it have any relevance to the Mr Copper in the Voyage of the Damned?
Which companion will die?
I doubt the Doctor regen is going to be as it looks. I can't seriously think the beeb could've recruited another actor without the press knowing.
Ok they could've let Davros get leaked to divert attention away from them getting a new Doctor and got Tennant to lie about how long he is staying, but I can't see it happening.
Plus the Doc got half caught by the death ray, so he won't be totally dead and is therefore capable of regeneration.
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Spike2002
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Date Posted:
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Why did Caan save Davros, the enemy of the Emperor to whom he is loyal?
What was Davros' role in the Time War if the Emperor was in charge?
Seems to me like Davros was in charge during the early days of the Time War. Then after he was killed by the Nightmare Child, or whatever it was called, the Dalek Emperor took over. (Said nothing about Davros and the Emp being enemies)
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SithLordDarthRichie
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6/30 4:42pm
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That maybe right, I'm just going by the old factions present the last time Davros was in the show, the Dalek Civil War was never resolved on screen. There is nothing to say that it never continued.
But Daleks could have allied together for the greater cause of destroying the Time Lords, or perhaps as Spike said the Emperor was created as of the removal of Davros (may have been a promoted Dalek Supreme hence the same sounding voice).
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Darth_Daver
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Date Posted:
6/30 6:03pm
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I just took it that Davros' and the Emperor's factions reunited after Skaro's destruction (or whatever actually happened to it in Remembrance). Maybe the 27 planets and crucible are needed to create some kind of 'New Skaro'?
Does the plan still have to be about the stars going out as well? I've lost track of whether that's still coming or if it was only in the alternate reality.
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Moylesy
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I'm presuming that the Nightmare Child was a Gallifreyan starship. Seems like modern SF writers love to invent cool name for ships, saying that I don't think anyone will ever beat Iain M. Banks on that score.
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SithLordDarthRichie
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7/1 4:34am
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Not sure, I assume if the Doctor was trying to save Davros maybe he was acting in the interests of all the Time Lords, so they wouldn't want to kill him.
Perhaps the Doctor thought that Davros was the only way to stop the Time War since he can be reasoned with and emotionless Daleks can't.
It may be that Davros got caught in some space anomoly that was called the Nightmare Child and his ship was destroyed.
Maybe it was a big Space Creature that lived in a nebula and came out when Davros got too close.
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694377
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7/1 12:03pm
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Moylesy posted:
694377 posted:
HusseinMedia_91 posted:
Does anyone think he's actually going to regenerate? I'd rather he didn't. As much as I want this season to be Tennant's last, I'd rather he regenerated at the end of the last episode, or at least get a proper goodbye like Eccleston did.
Enjoyed tonight's episode though. Caan was brilliant. As was Donna's Grandad. If he gets killed off I'll kill myself off.
No, he isn't going to regenerate. In an interview, David.T said that he's planning on staying until 2010. After that, he says he'll see. And of course, undeniable spoilers about the next Xmas special, his adventures with River Song (she said he turned up on her doorstep with a new haircut, and knew his face right away, so...) , so no. Plus, his hand in that contained begun to bubble a lot... Maybe that will stop his regeneration, or something? Maybe the Shadow Proclamation, or maybe something to do with the Medusa Cascade...
If I didn't know better I would suggest that you know more than you are making out you do.....
Well, it's only a sugestion. Heck, it isn't like i work for R.T.D... Damn, now i want to work for R.T.D!!! 
Rumours say that the Medusa Cascade comes back to haunt the Doctor in a future episode.
But never the less. David is not going to regenerate because of pictures from the Xmas special featuring the Cybermen and himself (plus his confirmation of staying until 2010), and currently no screens of a companion (Hmm...). Sarah Jane doesn't die because there's an exclusive leaked video on Youtube where she, Mickey, and Jackie are on a Dalek Ship with a load of randomers. Plus the Sarah Jane Adventures has been sqedualed for another series.
Gwen and Ianto probably won't die, because it is rumoured for another Torchwood series, and it would be totally illogical for older viewers who have not seen Doctor Who to wonder what happened to an absent Gwen and Ianto.
Of course someone needs to die, or so that woman from the Shadow Proclaimation said. Maybe Rose "dies" like being confirmed dead, aka "this is the story of how I died", but never did, because she "died" by going to the paralel universe and being confirmed dead on Earth. Or maybe Donna and her family go live in "Pete's World". Or maybe Jenny comes back after searching for her father, and dies saving everyone.
It's also been rumoured that Mickey will be working for Torchwood, and will not go back to "Pete's world", as a replacement for Torchwood's Toshiko. Martha has also been rumoured to join Tochwood as a Medic, as a replacement for Owen. Of course Jack does not lose his power to die, or maybe he does. Afterall, he does get killed a lot in Torchwood, and the Face of Boe does die eventually...
And K-9 is sealing off a black hole in the Sarah Jane Adventures. I'm not sure how long he said it would take, but it would be a long time, so so i'm sure he said. And R.T.D said he's leaving Doctor Who in 2010, aka, stepping down from his current position. Poor shame, he's a great writer...
There are many possibilities about the finale... And of course, many questions like "What is the Medusa Cascade" and the Nightmare Child"...
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SithLordDarthRichie
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Date Posted:
7/1 12:36pm
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Stepping down in 2010?
I was pretty sure it was mentioned he'd go as of the end of next year's specials, then Moffatt will do the 2010 series.
Tennant confirming he'd stay could easily have been a bluff by the BBC which they told him to say, and how accurate are these pictures of the Xmas Special are they actual on-set photos?
I also doubt he'll go now considering it would be next to impossible to keep a new Doctor actor secret (although, so far the BBC have managed to not let slip the identity of The Stig).
The video of Mickey, Sarah Jane and others is not a leak on youtube, it was shown the other week on Blue Peter.
There are many possibilities at the moment, seems likely either Donna or Rose will die.
Anyone ever considered that "the most faithful companion" could infact be the TARDIS?
Plus, rumour has it The Osterhagen Key has something to do with The Master, or the Mr Copperfield Foundation does
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ForceGhostOfCozmic
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I doubt that it's a bluff, since the BBC wouldn't lie in it's press release that he's staying on for the 3 eps next year. And Richie I take it you don't onto Outpost Gallifrey's forum since there is loads of on set pics of Tennant doing the Xmas Special.
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SithLordDarthRichie posted:
Stepping down in 2010?
I was pretty sure it was mentioned he'd go as of the end of next year's specials, then Moffatt will do the 2010 series.
Tennant confirming he'd stay could easily have been a bluff by the BBC which they told him to say, and how accurate are these pictures of the Xmas Special are they actual on-set photos?
I also doubt he'll go now considering it would be next to impossible to keep a new Doctor actor secret (although, so far the BBC have managed to not let slip the identity of The Stig).
The video of Mickey, Sarah Jane and others is not a leak on youtube, it was shown the other week on Blue Peter.
There are many possibilities at the moment, seems likely either Donna or Rose will die.
Anyone ever considered that "the most faithful companion" could infact be the TARDIS?
Plus, rumour has it The Osterhagen Key has something to do with The Master, or the Mr Copperfield Foundation does
Yeah, i wasn't exactly sure about the 2010 R.T.D thing... But i think you're right.
I doubt that, because of this video showing David.T, and a seemingly Doctor-ish looking person... With a similar haircut (River Song referance?). Plus, other videos in youtube show pictures of a new type of Cyberman (Parallel Earth Cyber) called a CyberShade
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=NJoWObt9LYE&feature=related
Well, yeah, not exactly leaked, but never the less, letting secret's slide for the next episode.
The TARDIS dieing...? Heck no, i doubt that very much. Doctor Who would not be Doctor Who without it. But in the description of the next episode, it does say that the TARDIS does face certain destruction... Except it appears in the 2008 Xmas sepcial, so that theory's out of the window...
Also, the finale is meant to be 65 minutes long!!! Davros is attempting to destroy reality in the next episode, or so many sources tell us all. Heck, even a quote:
"The ending approches...People and Planets and Stars will become dust, and the dust will become atoms and the atoms will become...nothing. This is my ultimate victory! The destruction of reality itself! "
¯Davros
Wow... he's officially become a looney!
Here's a few rumours, so i'll cover them up, because it may lead to some lord of mass SPOILERS:
- Because Caan broke the lock on the Time War, the Doctor may be able to go back and save the Time Lords.
Possible, but that would alter time drasticly.
- "Death is coming. Oh, I can see it. Everlasting death for the most faithful companion". - Caan. Maybe he means himself, the most faithful to Davros. Afterall, he did not say anything about the Doctor...
Sounds like it can happen...
- The Doctor has to decide which Companion dies, due to the Shadow Proclaimation's prohecy.
Sounds like a plan...
- Sylvester McCoy to make a surprise reappearance. He was interviewed as part of Doctor Who Confidential for "The Stolen Earth" in his seventh Doctor costume, whereas Peter Davison was interviewed in "Civilian" clothing, rather than his cricket gear of the fifth Doctor.
I SO WANT THIS TO HAPPEN!!!!
- Caan talked about the Doctor as a threefold man, so perhaps 3 incarnations of himself appear due to a "botched regeneration"?
Oh hell yeah! I'd love to see the 8th and 9th Doctor, but heck it would be awesome...
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Actually I have also heard of that last rumour. That line of Caan's must have some relevence.
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Moylesy
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ForceGhostOfCozmic posted:
I doubt that it's a bluff, since the BBC wouldn't lie in it's press release that he's staying on for the 3 eps next year. And Richie I take it you don't onto Outpost Gallifrey's forum since there is loads of on set pics of Tennant doing the Xmas Special.
That's a bit confusing. Surely you mean www.doctorwhoforum.com?
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Yes, yes I do. Why confusing?
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What I wanna know is, why did he keep taking cells from his body instead of just taking one or a few and cloning those cells endlessly? It's most likely some explanation like you can't clone cloned material or something. But even then, why didn't he just use Caan instead?
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Moylesy
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ForceGhostOfCozmic posted:
Yes, yes I do. Why confusing?
Outpost Gallifrey = gallifreyone.com = doctorwhoforum.com
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