| Author |
Topic:
Star Trek XI
|
DISCIPLE-OF-TYTHON
Registered:
Sep '06
|
Date Posted:
8/5/07 5:13pm
Subject:
RE: Star Trek XI
|
I always wondered what the RetroFitted Dorsal Carrier (XRT-550) would of looked like, it was commissioned in 3125! 
-----signature-----
Tython: Birthplace of the Jedi Order and the Force Wars
For my ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is!
(FF-UK:NORTH, proud to be a Northerner!)
|
Locked Topic |
Active Topic Notification |
Private Message |
Post History
|
Mustafar_66
Registered:
May '05
|
Date Posted:
8/5/07 5:18pm
Subject:
RE: Star Trek XI
|
|
You lost me at dorsal...
-----signature-----
Why no, I won't get in your car. You can pass me the candy through the window. Pink Floyd are the Greatest! Proud Jacen, NJO and LOTF fan. One of few.    
|
Locked Topic |
Active Topic Notification |
Private Message |
Post History
|
Moylesy
Registered:
Jul '01
|
Date Posted:
8/6/07 3:37am
Subject:
RE: Star Trek XI
|
|
The Nova is a nice design, it fits well with that era (and only comes in one part...).
-----signature-----
Oh
England
My
Lionheart
|
Locked Topic |
Active Topic Notification |
Private Message |
Post History
|
DarthArsenal6
Registered:
Oct '01
|
Date Posted:
8/7/07 1:42pm
Subject:
RE: Star Trek XI
- Date Edited:
8/7/07 1:47pm (1 edits total)
Edited By:
DarthArsenal6
|
Is Film4 film expectation has sunk to a new low or are we missing something on Star Trek Nemesis ?
I like watching Film 4 because of the films they put makes a real difference from blockbuster films but yesterday they decided to show Nemesis ?
Anywhoo
Moylesy posted:
We do not know anything about the J really, it does look a bit spindly but we do not know how big it is and whether it has something holding it all together like an advanced structural integrity field coupled with advanced shields. From that brief glimpses we have seen you can not really make any judgement regarding it's capabilities.
....
I wouldn't want to agrue with idea that we cant judge on things we cant see or touch
but these are Star Trek ships they are predictible 
Moylesy posted:
Enterprise D - Alternate future version - Poor - You do not need to add an extra warp nacelle to make it go faster, just replace the existing ones with "turbo" versions. Stupid greeblies stuck on to make it look interesting and a "Rail Gun"???? That's not an advancement on phasers and torpedoes....
Isn't the Enterprise D - Alternate future version a dreadnaught class in the Picard era
Its 3 nacellies, mega Phazers, various phazers torpedo lauchers and a new weponary rail guns ?
Look at these ships from the Kirk sixty era:
Federation Class
Star trek film era (1-6)
-----signature-----
|-o-| {OO} <-o-> /-o-\ <=o=>
"You mean you'll put down your rock, and I'll put down my sword and we'll try and kill each other like civilized people?"
A,B XY
DA6 calender goes from March 31st to April 2nd, no one fools DarthArsenal6.
|
Locked Topic |
Active Topic Notification |
Private Message |
Post History
|
Mustafar_66
Registered:
May '05
|
Date Posted:
8/7/07 3:03pm
Subject:
RE: Star Trek XI
|
|
Are those ships canon at all?
-----signature-----
Why no, I won't get in your car. You can pass me the candy through the window. Pink Floyd are the Greatest! Proud Jacen, NJO and LOTF fan. One of few.
|
Locked Topic |
Active Topic Notification |
Private Message |
Post History
|
DarthArsenal6
Registered:
Oct '01
|
Date Posted:
8/7/07 3:12pm
Subject:
RE: Star Trek XI
- Date Edited:
8/7/07 3:13pm (1 edits total)
Edited By:
DarthArsenal6
|
When It comes to ships star trek doesn't bother whether a ship is in cannoon or not
Sometime ago a fan created a B era type Carrier then the actual ship was used in DS9.
So yeah they are
Remember Starfleet has various varaints of types of starships which we havent seen
-----signature-----
|-o-| {OO} <-o-> /-o-\ <=o=>
"You mean you'll put down your rock, and I'll put down my sword and we'll try and kill each other like civilized people?"
A,B XY
DA6 calender goes from March 31st to April 2nd, no one fools DarthArsenal6.
|
Locked Topic |
Active Topic Notification |
Private Message |
Post History
|
Spike2002
Title: FF-UK RSA
Arena Manager
Registered:
Feb '02
|
Date Posted:
8/7/07 3:15pm
Subject:
RE: Star Trek XI
|
|
Current Star Trek canon policy IIRC is "if it appears on screen, it's canon. If it doesn't, it ain't."
-----signature-----
"It may be that our role on this planet is not to worship God, but to create him." - Arthur C. Clarke  I agree with halibut  Master to Louis_Skywalker  Proud Recipient of the Golden Elegos™ 
|
Locked Topic |
Active Topic Notification |
Private Message |
Post History
|
Mustafar_66
Registered:
May '05
|
Date Posted:
8/7/07 3:21pm
Subject:
RE: Star Trek XI
|
|
I think Spike's right. Unlike Star Wars, Trek doesn't have verying levels of canon. The only thing that's gospel is what's on screen, everything else is fanon.
-----signature-----
Why no, I won't get in your car. You can pass me the candy through the window. Pink Floyd are the Greatest! Proud Jacen, NJO and LOTF fan. One of few.
|
Locked Topic |
Active Topic Notification |
Private Message |
Post History
|
Spike2002
Title: FF-UK RSA
Arena Manager
Registered:
Feb '02
|
Date Posted:
8/7/07 3:30pm
Subject:
RE: Star Trek XI
|
I decided to look up Trek canon policy on the Trek wikia.
Memory Alpha posted:
As Star Trek grew in both size and popularity in the 1980s, fans were faced with the problem of how to treat the ever-growing collection of episodes, movies, novels, comics, technical manuals, and more.
The Star Trek canon is generally defined as all live-action television series and feature films released by Paramount Pictures. With the release of the Animated Series on DVD, the studio appears to have changed its stance, and is now listing the cartoon series (aired 1973–1974), as a part of established canon. here, here and here.
The various "official" references (such as the Star Trek Encyclopedia or the Star Trek Chronology) may be used as a guide to canon information, but are not canon in and of themselves.
The definition of Star Trek canon may vary for different fans, and therefore for a reference source like Memory Alpha, the question may become especially difficult.
In those cases, the term fanon is used to refer to "fan canon" (of which the term is a portmanteau). It applies to certain "facts" that may have been accepted as a truth by a large number of fans, and thus either replaces an established canonical fact in the minds of those fans, or fills a plot-hole.
Licensed
A large body of licensed Star Trek works exists that, while approved for publication by Paramount, is not considered part of Star Trek canon. This includes novels, comics, games, and older reference books such as the Star Fleet Technical Manual.
Un-licensed
There is also a large body of non-canon un-licensed work produced by fans themselves. Until recently this fan-fiction, while enjoyed by many, was dismissed by almost all in relation to canon.
The recent growth episodes and films produced by former Star Trek cast and crew has garnered much greater attention than traditional fan-fiction. Some of this material is considered to be more offical than the novels and games by some fans due to the inclusion of actors from the various Star Trek series. The two projects that fall into this group are:
Star Trek: New Voyages
Star Trek: Of Gods and Men
-----signature-----
"It may be that our role on this planet is not to worship God, but to create him." - Arthur C. Clarke I agree with halibut Master to Louis_Skywalker Proud Recipient of the Golden Elegos™
|
Locked Topic |
Active Topic Notification |
Private Message |
Post History
|
DarthArsenal6
Registered:
Oct '01
|
Date Posted:
8/7/07 4:50pm
Subject:
RE: Star Trek XI
- Date Edited:
8/7/07 5:06pm (3 edits total)
Edited By:
DarthArsenal6
|
So is wiki saying that
License version are cannons ?
THen the Technical manual are licensed as you mentioned
therefore those ships are cannon
Mustafa and Spike, if you say that what is seen on Screen are cannon then what you said about licenced is contradictory,
There are a lot of ships in star fleet have not been shown on screen yet they are licenced. 
I seen a few in model shops
bottom line to classify star trek ships whats cannon or not will be difficult unless someone flies the Millenium Falcon acrossthen we will know for sure.
-----signature-----
|-o-| {OO} <-o-> /-o-\ <=o=>
"You mean you'll put down your rock, and I'll put down my sword and we'll try and kill each other like civilized people?"
A,B XY
DA6 calender goes from March 31st to April 2nd, no one fools DarthArsenal6.
|
Locked Topic |
Active Topic Notification |
Private Message |
Post History
|
Spike2002
Title: FF-UK RSA
Arena Manager
Registered:
Feb '02
|
Date Posted:
8/7/07 5:32pm
Subject:
RE: Star Trek XI
- Date Edited:
8/7/07 5:34pm (1 edits total)
Edited By:
Spike2002
|
I repeat
Trek Wiki posted:
Licensed
A large body of licensed Star Trek works exists that, while approved for publication by Paramount, is not considered part of Star Trek canon. This includes novels, comics, games, and older reference books such as the Star Fleet Technical Manual.
bottom line to classify star trek ships whats cannon or not will be difficult unless someone flies the Millenium Falcon acrossthen we will know for sure.
No matter how hard I try, I can never see the Falcon in the ST: FC battle 
-----signature-----
"It may be that our role on this planet is not to worship God, but to create him." - Arthur C. Clarke I agree with halibut Master to Louis_Skywalker Proud Recipient of the Golden Elegos™
|
Locked Topic |
Active Topic Notification |
Private Message |
Post History
|
DarthArsenal6
Registered:
Oct '01
|
Date Posted:
8/8/07 2:57am
Subject:
RE: Star Trek XI
|
Spike2002 posted:
I repeat
Trek Wiki posted:
Licensed
A large body of licensed Star Trek works exists that, while approved for publication by Paramount, is not considered part of Star Trek canon. This includes novels, comics, games, and older reference books such as the Star Fleet Technical Manual.
 sorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrryyyyyyyy
bottom line to classify star trek ships whats cannon or not will be difficult unless someone flies the Millenium Falcon acrossthen we will know for sure.
No matter how hard I try, I can never see the Falcon in the ST: FC battle
USE YOUR IMAGINENATION !
-----signature-----
|-o-| {OO} <-o-> /-o-\ <=o=>
"You mean you'll put down your rock, and I'll put down my sword and we'll try and kill each other like civilized people?"
A,B XY
DA6 calender goes from March 31st to April 2nd, no one fools DarthArsenal6.
|
Locked Topic |
Active Topic Notification |
Private Message |
Post History
|
halibut
Title: FF Admin & UK RSA
Registered:
Aug '00
|
Date Posted:
8/8/07 3:29am
Subject:
RE: Star Trek XI
|
|
http://flare.solareclipse.net/cgi2/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=3;t=001690;p=0
-----signature-----
Don't you know about the bird?
Everybody knows that the bird is the word!
|
Locked Topic |
Active Topic Notification |
Private Message |
Post History
|
moosemousse
Title: CR - FF:UK South
Registered:
Oct '04
|
Date Posted:
8/8/07 3:43am
Subject:
RE: Star Trek XI
|
halibut posted:
http://flare.solareclipse.net/cgi2/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=3;t=001690;p=0
Nice. 
-----signature-----
Vader's Mousedroid Society Fanfic links in my bio My fan art: http://boards.theforce.net/fan_art/b10020/26961879/ when infected with Small Child the victim continues to swell for nine months before the infection can be safely removed
|
Locked Topic |
Active Topic Notification |
Private Message |
Post History
|
Spike2002
Title: FF-UK RSA
Arena Manager
Registered:
Feb '02
|
Date Posted:
8/8/07 7:36am
Subject:
RE: Star Trek XI
|
|
My point stands. It's really difficult to see.
-----signature-----
"It may be that our role on this planet is not to worship God, but to create him." - Arthur C. Clarke I agree with halibut Master to Louis_Skywalker Proud Recipient of the Golden Elegos™
|
Locked Topic |
Active Topic Notification |
Private Message |
Post History
|
