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HarryHill
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3/11 2:32am
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But which is better? life in prison, or a lethal injection?
There's only one way to find out
FIGHT!!!!!!
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darth_frared
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3/11 6:59am
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i voted no if that is any help... it feels utterly wrong.
this is a civilized country.
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Spike2002
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3/11 8:35am
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HarryHill posted:
But which is better? life in prison, or a lethal injection?
There's only one way to find out
FIGHT!!!!!!
Lol.
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Blue_but_beautiful
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3/12 5:11am
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Darth_Daver posted:
Blue_but_beautiful posted:
A life for a life? Whoever said two wrongs don't make a right, was spot on in this case.
Again, you can apply the same reasoning to prison sentences. You're advocating taking no action against criminals at all. Unless somehow one wrong plus a lesser 'wrong' does make a right.
I'm not saying action shouldn't be taken exactly, I see your point there, but I don't believe - personally - that anyone has the right to take another persons life. Yes, you could argue that the same could be said about prison sentences, but in the case of wrongly accused people, a prison sentence can be rescinded, death can't. Therefore, I hardly see it as the same thing.
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SithLordDarthRichie
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3/12 11:06am
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Yes mistakes in justice maybe few, but in the case of the death penalty one mistkae is too many.
darth_frared posted:
i voted no if that is any help... it feels utterly wrong.
this is a civilized country.
So is America (apparently) and they use the death penalty.
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darth_frared
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i never said the US was civilised
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Spike2002
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If we bring back the pledge of allegiance, then won't anyone convicted of treason be the first candidates for the death penalty?
I'm sensing an agenda...
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chrisfree
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As far as I know the UK's treason laws subject anyone in this realm to it. The BBC had an article on it recently as it is due to be changed. Here's a gist of it.
"Treason can only be committed by someone owing allegiance to the Crown, but nationals of friendly foreign countries do owe such allegiance while they are within the realm, as do foreign nationals abroad who have British passports."
The treason laws have left the death penalty behind some time ago. What would be the agenda?
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DarthArsenal6
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3/13 4:16pm
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Moylesy posted:
I would start with the racists (???????????????) in Peterborough for having a go at our RAF lads... 
Racist ??????? I thought race was something to do with skin colour and not the uniform you wear, Hmmmmmmm funny that.
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SithLordDarthRichie
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3/13 5:04pm
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Racism covers more then just colour, but I agree insulting the RAF is not racist. It is however a silly thing to do, insulting the defenders of your own nation seems pointless to me.
chrisfree posted:
As far as I know the UK's treason laws subject anyone in this realm to it.
The treason laws have left the death penalty behind some time ago. What would be the agenda?
It seems sensible that all residents of the UK should be covered under the treason act, since it is treason to conspire etc against the monarch.
It does seem harsh to kill someone for plotting to kill or mentioning deposing the monarch, so it's good the punishment was changed.
I see from that article that it is an offense to attempt to depose the monarch, yet I'm pretty sure the government has powers to make us a republic were it the general public wish. The Queen has no powers to resist after all, she can't really do anything.
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chrisfree
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3/14 7:18pm
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Well, if she was that sort of a person, I suppose she still has the right to dissolve parliament as she is the one also who - at least in principle if not in practice - chooses her Prime Minister.
SithLordDarthRichie posted:
It seems sensible that all residents of the UK should be covered under the treason act, since it is treason to conspire etc against the monarch.
I quite agree. In my passport it states that abroad I have to abide by both my own country's and that foreign country's laws. As far as I'm concerned I happily oblige but it would be really nice if most people understood as well that a passport is not just a piece of document to get one from A to B but an official document which was issued by the government with certain criteria in mind. Although, I have an easy time doing that. I'm royalist in principle.
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Moylesy
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DarthArsenal6 posted:
Moylesy posted:
I would start with the racists (???????????????) in Peterborough for having a go at our RAF lads...
Racist ??????? I thought race was something to do with skin colour and not the uniform you wear, Hmmmmmmm funny that.
Probably the wrong word to use, but we all know who are behind these threats - the cover-up by the government and media is sickening.
From the timesonline...
After the ban on uniforms in Peterborough, ordered by the station commander at nearby RAF Wittering, one senior air force source said that military commanders had to be aware of potential problems of personnel wearing combat and other military clothes in the street.
“We’re aware of the sensitivities, for example, in some ethnic minority communities which is why we need to have a dialogue with local authorities and police if we don’t want to cause a problem,” the source said.
Not soo funny that!
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DarthArsenal6
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3/15 12:37pm
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Moylesy posted:
DarthArsenal6 posted:
Moylesy posted:
I would start with the racists (???????????????) in Peterborough for having a go at our RAF lads...
Racist ??????? I thought race was something to do with skin colour and not the uniform you wear, Hmmmmmmm funny that.
Probably the wrong word to use, but we all know who are behind these threats - the cover-up by the government and media is sickening.
From the timesonline...
After the ban on uniforms in Peterborough, ordered by the station commander at nearby RAF Wittering, one senior air force source said that military commanders had to be aware of potential problems of personnel wearing combat and other military clothes in the street.
“We’re aware of the sensitivities, for example, in some ethnic minority communities which is why we need to have a dialogue with local authorities and police if we don’t want to cause a problem,” the source said.
Not soo funny that!
Oh stop justifiying yourself Mos YOU said IT was Racist .
THen explain it instead of going into a fit.
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halibut
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3/15 12:43pm
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Calm down, guys. As malkie said earlier, this is nothing to do with race. It's an anti-war protest.
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Moylesy
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3/15 5:10pm
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Anti-war, anti-west, anti-british, anti-democracy....... that's why I said racist was not perhaps the best description.
Muslims are likely to have been responsible for abuse to members of the Armed services on the streets of Peterborough says Tory MP Stuart Jackson.
The Peterborough MP was interviewed by Jon Gaunt on the radio show Talk Sport following the ban on RAF Wittering personnel wearing their uniforms when visiting Peterborough as posted HERE.
Stuart Jackson told Jon Gaunt that the vast majority of people in Peterborough strongly support the armed forces.
But when the radio presenter asked if people have been abusing our troops, Mr Jackson said it had been mentioned to him that Muslims may be responsible and he thought that was likely, but said they would be unrepresentative of the local Muslim community in Peterborough.
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