SithLordDarthRichie posted:

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I thought it was random people doing it.

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Moylesy posted:

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Anti-war, anti-west, anti-british, anti-democracy....... that's why I said racist was not perhaps the best description.

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DarthArsenal6 posted:

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Moylesy posted:

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Anti-war, anti-west, anti-british, anti-democracy....... that's why I said racist was not perhaps the best description.

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Muslims are likely to have been responsible for abuse to members of the Armed services on the streets of Peterborough says Tory MP Stuart Jackson.

So Muslims ARE anti-west, anti-british , anti democracy is it ?

Not all of them, just (particularly in this case) a cross-section of a small minority.

What are you trying to apply here Mos could be MORE clearer .

Be very careful DA6, just what am I trying to imply?

First of all you don't have to be anti-west, anti-british, anti-democracy if you are against the WAR

True, the Goverment and BBC would have us believe that the only people against the war are hippies and anarchists.

Second ok you admit it was wrong to call it, racist but why call it anti-west, anti-british, anti-democracy espicially when the quotes you put from the MP GENERALLY says Muslims like catorgorise as a whole.
YOu are indirectly equating anti-west, anti-british , anti democracy with Muslims
I'm not interested what the quotes say I';m interested how you equated Muslims to be anti-this and anti- that
if you think all Muslims are like this then...um ..well you need to come out alot

You should be interested what the quotes say. It is quite obvious that the cross-section of a small minority are against western values as a whole (with the possible exception of the benefits system and the NHS).

Everybody getting on well here in the UK even when we are in the 7th year in the War on Terror. I will say this that the UK is one of the most tolerant country in world when it comes to us muslims practicing our religion. As well as Muslims living abide the law of this land

This is very true, what a wonderful, welcoming country we are.

I know that racist doesn't apply to Whites, racist exist in all race eg.
Black on Whites vice versa
Asian on Whites Vice versa
Asian on Blacks Vice versa and so, as well as anti-faith
to make it clear

But Mos you are taking things out of content here. Its not anti-west, anti-british , anti democracy when you are againt the war. Some have lost love ones there because of colatural Damages.

Please fill in some details here, how many Pakistanis living in Peterborough have lost relatives in Iraq because of collateral damage?

I have respect for the armed forces, the things that they are doing, helping the people there at times. I see nothing wrong wearing the UNiform. I blame MPs 99 percent of it, especially having our troops killed in an ilegal and unnessarry war.
But when you get news like britsh soilders abusing Iraqi civillsin

soilders abusing

I really do wonder.....these soilder are the worst of the wrost, have brought the entire army down with such behavior. and should be dealt with .

They have been dealt with, it happened three years ago. There are bad people in all societies but these culprits were named and shamed by the authorities. No anonimity for them....


PS
I would not be called a racist, anti-west, anti-british, anti-democracy etc just because I'm against the War and being a Muslim. I think its just a ploy to ridicule people who are against the war in a democratic country

bear in mind though
Lets take Timesontime story and turn it around
Lets for example say the Imam of a such a mosque says that Pubs must be closed down
THeres protest throught out the country

True.

Wouldn’t it be wrong if for a muslim MP saying that Muslim women should not wear
the hijab because it offense the non muslim living in in the UK ( because of the protest) delibrating changing what the real cause of the protest ?

A Muslim MP would not say that as you well know. The only problem with the wearing of the hijab is where it interferes in a profession (such as "scrubbing up" in the Health Service). It would certainly not be banned for "causing offence". I really don't see your point....


What Kind of abuse ? – whats been said ?

I don't know, I was not there.

if it is just concern ,then why hype it up as if it had happen.
This story sounds fishy especially when the presenter was being precise and the MP sort of back off. If there is a terroist going on MI5 will be the first to know and sort it as well as the people including muslim alike to report it.

The guy is a local MP, he knows what's going on, nothing fishy about it.

It look like this MP is stiring some kind of hate between Muslims and non-muslim in Peterbough.

Anyway

Mos if that is not what you ment then I'll take it back and I apologies.

Aplogise for what? Implying that I'm a racist? no bother mate, don't worry about it. I'm not upset, no really, don't worry about unjustly accusing me of being a racist...

Just be clearer.

I could not have been more clearer. I was angry at two things;

1, These nasty indiviuals who think it is fun to spit bile at someone who is just doing his job (a very undervalued job might I add).

2, The Government and the Media for covering up the fact who these indiviuals are. They are doing themselves no favours by creating an atmosphere of suspicion.


sorry for derailing the subject.

seconded.

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Moylesy posted:

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Be very careful DA6, just what am I trying to imply?

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SithLordDarthRichie posted:

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Yes he found a humane way of doing it, that doesn't mean it's right or that we'd be allowed to do it.

Does no country in Europe have the death penalty?

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SithLordDarthRichie posted:

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Yes he found a humane way of doing it, that doesn't mean it's right or that we'd be allowed to do it.

Does no country in Europe have the death penalty?

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Darth_Asabrush posted:

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This link gives a fuller outline of the EU (and by association, its member countries') stance on Capital Punishment.

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elbertino posted:

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Darth_Asabrush posted:

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This link gives a fuller outline of the EU (and by association, its member countries') stance on Capital Punishment.

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"The page cannot be found"


you muppet

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