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Author	Topic: Terminator - Salvation
edgejedi Registered: May '04	Date Posted: 5/19 2:03am Subject: Terminator - Salvation
	Warner Bros sez... posted: Set in post-apocalyptic 2018, John Connor is the man fated to lead the human resistance against Skynet and its army of Terminators. But the future Connor was raised to believe in is altered in part by the appearance of Marcus Wright, a stranger whose last memory is of being on death row. Connor must decide whether Marcus has been sent from the future, or rescued from the past. As Skynet prepares its final onslaught, Connor and Marcus both embark on an odyssey that takes them into the heart of Skynet’s operations, where they uncover the terrible secret behind the possible annihilation of mankind. Written by Warner Bros. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0438488/ Im not so sure about Helena Bonham-Carter....but hey, I'll go with the flow... Looking forward to seeing this one. I hear its a world apart from its predecessors. -----signature----- The Good Guys Always Win....Go on then....throw us another Death Star.....bring it on..... http://www.rebellegionuk.com http://www.dreamflight.org http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Rebel-Legion-UK/97532553001
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Moylesy Registered: Jul '01	Date Posted: 5/19 2:55am Subject: Terminator - Salvation - Date Edited: 5/19 2:58am (1 edits total) Edited By: Moylesy
	A world apart in terms of scenario maybe. I have read that the SFX/CGI is excellent, but then it's a high budget movie so we must expect that, the acting and characterisation is so-so and that some scenes are ridiculous (given that it is supposed to be realistic and gritty). I was concerned that it might be too adult for my son (who has seen all of the franchise now) but it appears that it is tamed down from the previous movies (hence the 12A rating). Still looking forward to it though and I don't have as high expectations of it as I did for Star Trek. As for the plot, I have watched all the trailers and released scenes as well as reading quite a bit about it and seeing a few pictures, artwork, etc. Don't know if anyone wishes to discuss this before it is released so I'll Spoiler Tag it; 1, Presuming that there is no time travel in this movie (advanced Terminators travelling back to 2018) then it looks like Serena Kogen is a cyborg like Marcus Wright. I'm thinking that they were probably both facing death somehow (MW was on death row) and donated their bodies to some research (Project Angel???). When J day happened the research from this Project was hijacked by Skynet. Transplanting human organs onto a mechanical skeleton is probably easier than growing flesh from scratch (a major plot point in T:S). 2, Where has John Connor been? There is a part in the movie where he questions what year, date it is. Perhaps he has been in a bunker for 12 years? We know that he is not the leader of the resitance at the start of the movie. Edit: I love that last bit in the blurb "written by Warner Brothers". It had so many re-writes they would need an extra 5 minutes of credits to fit them all in... -----signature----- Oh England My Lionheart
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Spike2002 Title: Former FF-UK RSA and Arena Manager Registered: Feb '02	Date Posted: 5/19 3:46am Subject: Terminator - Salvation
	I can't wait to see this movie. The trailers look awesome. -----signature----- "It may be that our role on this planet is not to worship God, but to create him." - Arthur C. Clarke I agree with halibut Master to Louis_Skywalker Proud Recipient of the Golden Elegos™
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DarthArsenal6 Registered: Oct '01	Date Posted: 5/22 8:43am Subject: Terminator - Salvation
	Here a site if anyone hasn't seen the trailers: http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/terminatorsalvation/ Apperently Moritz Borman sued Halcyon Company for not paying him. -----signature----- \|-o-\| {OO} <-o-> /-o-\ <=o=> "You mean you'll put down your rock, and I'll put down my sword and we'll try and kill each other like civilized people?" A,B XY DA6 calender goes from March 31st to April 2nd, no one fools DarthArsenal6.
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Moylesy Registered: Jul '01	Date Posted: 5/22 1:01pm Subject: Terminator - Salvation
	DarthArsenal6 posted: Apperently Moritz Borman sued Halcyon Company for not paying him. Really? You are kidding right? I can't quite believe it myself. -----signature----- Oh England My Lionheart
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Black-Tiger Registered: Nov '08	Date Posted: 5/23 10:02am Subject: Terminator - Salvation
	At long last we’re getting into hardcore Sci-Fi, rather than watching people running after each other round contemporary cities. Looks pretty good from what I’ve seen, but I had no idea Ms. Carter was going to be in it. Sure is a long way from the period dramas and Art House films she normally does. But then again, she does have a thing for doing dark movies, so she should really get off on this sort of thing.
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DarthArsenal6 Registered: Oct '01	Date Posted: 5/23 4:04pm Subject: Terminator - Salvation - Date Edited: 5/23 5:05pm (1 edits total) Edited By: DarthArsenal6
	Its quite interesting to see Helena Bonham-Carter playing the lead villain in this movies. Although she has been in many dark related films, it is the first time I'll see her in such a role. Here something interesting I've found: http://skynetresearch.com/ -----signature----- \|-o-\| {OO} <-o-> /-o-\ <=o=> "You mean you'll put down your rock, and I'll put down my sword and we'll try and kill each other like civilized people?" A,B XY DA6 calender goes from March 31st to April 2nd, no one fools DarthArsenal6.
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Moylesy Registered: Jul '01	Date Posted: 6/17 1:31am Subject: Terminator - Salvation
	Terrible movie, save your money and go and see Star Trek instead - that's what a SF movie should be. -----signature----- Oh England My Lionheart
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chrisfree Registered: Apr '06	Date Posted: 6/17 7:10am Subject: Terminator - Salvation
	I thought them equally boring. -----signature----- Padawan to Jedi_Jimbo SW quote nerf
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Moylesy Registered: Jul '01	Date Posted: 6/17 7:23am Subject: Terminator - Salvation
	chrisfree posted: I thought them equally boring. Really? Then you must have had a great time watching the Prequels... -----signature----- Oh England My Lionheart
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SithLordDarthRichie Registered: Oct '03	Date Posted: 6/17 12:19pm Subject: Terminator - Salvation
	I didn't think it was terrible, but neither was it great. It had some annoying plot holes that bugged me and I thought there were too many times Bale was out-acted by the machines he was fighting against. I'd have guessed him as the Terminator over Sam Worthington, who was far more human then Bale. -----signature----- Amor Numquam Moritur... Winner of Best Male Poster & Best Double Act - FFUK Awards 2005 Mandalorian Defender in the Acolytes of Revan......for Honour & Glory!! "All of nature is a battlefield"
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Moylesy Registered: Jul '01	Date Posted: 6/17 1:25pm Subject: Terminator - Salvation
	SithLordDarthRichie posted: I didn't think it was terrible, but neither was it great. It had some annoying plot holes* that bugged me and I thought there were too many times Bale was out-acted by the machines he was fighting against. I'd have guessed him as the Terminator over Sam Worthington, who was far more human then Bale. You're actually right, it wasn't totally terrible. I have to disagree regarding the plot holes though, it was a fairly tight story although if you are a not a fan there maybe some gaps that needed filling. My main gripe was with the acting and dialogue. Unsure of Bale's performance, the Resistance Command seemed like comic relief and the supporting actors (bar perhaps Yelchin) were wooden and flat. Can't complain about the action, SFX and CGI, it was all good. I think perhaps I have been spoilt by the human side of The Sarah Connor Chronicles, there was more emotion in the opening scene of Star Trek than there was in the whole of Salvation. PS: With his brain intact Marcus was still human (although with serious upgrades) and as such was not willingly on the metal's side. * - What plot holes did you have problems with? -----signature----- Oh England My Lionheart
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SithLordDarthRichie Registered: Oct '03	Date Posted: 6/17 3:10pm Subject: Terminator - Salvation
	Not all are exactly problems with the plot itself, but still things that I didn't like. In Terminator 2 the T-800 is destroyed after being lowered into moltern liquid. Yet in this movie the T-800 has moltern liquid poured onto it and rises up unaffected. When the T-800 is frozen why don't they hit or do something to it? They just wait for it to defrost and carry on. Why was there a minimal amount of resistance inside Skynet itself? Wouldn't it have a massive army to defend it? John Connor encountered one dodgy CG Arnie T-800 and a couple of T-600s, and those seemed to come out in an orderly fashion as though queuing up to be destroyed. I was annoyed at how the Terminators had a simple back of the neck kill spot, that made them look weak. I liked the different types of new Terminators that were added, particularly the snake ones. -----signature----- Amor Numquam Moritur... Winner of Best Male Poster & Best Double Act - FFUK Awards 2005 Mandalorian Defender in the Acolytes of Revan......for Honour & Glory!! "All of nature is a battlefield"
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Moylesy Registered: Jul '01	Date Posted: 6/18 12:48am Subject: Terminator - Salvation - Date Edited: 6/18 12:51am (1 edits total) Edited By: Moylesy
	Valid points Richie, I thought that you may have had issues with continuity, etc. To tell you the truth I had never thought about your issues because at that point in the movie I was just waiting for it to finish . Perhaps the T-800 did not melt because the molten metal was already cooling at this point? In T2 the T-800 lowered itself into a cauldron of metal that was being constantly heated. To shatter the T-800 in Salvation you would need a lot of kinetic energy (such as a bullet) Connor did not have a gun at that point, we also have to remember that the T-800 and T-1000 are made from different types of metal. The neck weak spot was obviously a bad design fault and rectified on the T-800s. As for Skynet's defences - we know that Marcus knocked out the sentry turrets, perhaps there were other defence systems disabled that we did not see? -----signature----- Oh England My Lionheart
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SithLordDarthRichie Registered: Oct '03	Date Posted: 6/18 7:18am Subject: Terminator - Salvation
	Mehtinks they'll need to improve on the next one if the franchise is to retain credibility. -----signature----- Amor Numquam Moritur... Winner of Best Male Poster & Best Double Act - FFUK Awards 2005 Mandalorian Defender in the Acolytes of Revan......for Honour & Glory!! "All of nature is a battlefield"
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chrisfree Registered: Apr '06	Date Posted: 6/18 8:33am Subject: Terminator - Salvation
	Moylesy posted: chrisfree posted: I thought them equally boring. Really? Then you must have had a great time watching the Prequels... How did you know? As entertainment they still rank a lot higher than any of these action movies. -----signature----- Padawan to Jedi_Jimbo SW quote nerf
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