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Qui-Dawn 
Registered: Jul '00
6117_Anakin and Padme
Date Posted: 8/30/05 8:25pm Subject: RE: New leadership required time for Nominations
Indigo_Jade posted:
Qui-Dawn posted:
Now, now, let's not speak so....no reason to be getting tetchy there, m'dear. There was in the past reason for that - but from where I am standing right now, and it is as Randy rightly said - that is all past, then....so let us move on to bigger and better things, and to the prevalent matter here. No snippiness required, methinks....

Who was being tetchy or snippy?
Like Mike and Alakin said, a person who is going to be the Chapter Representative of a FanForce group should be representative of the group. I think I would know more than all of you what the requirements of a Chapter Rep are... wink
Somebody, for whatever reason, who hasn't been to a FanForce event nor posted on the FanForce board in nearly two years really wouldn't fit that description...
I was only stating a simple fact, not using "politics" or snippyness.
Indy


Tch, there....but you were in fact being snippy and a bit untoward in your phrasing, your displayed attitude or sentiments there, m'dear....so sorry to say, but it's true. But there really is no need to be coming across in such a fashion, and thus I'm sure that you'll endeavour to avoid being tetchy or coming across in snippy fashion from here on in....because it is in fact an apparent thing - perhaps more so than you might have realized, but that's all right. Just so long as it's quite clear that there need never be any call for such a thing....and, after all, I'm fairly certain that it was certainly never the intention with what was originally broached here. Surely, after all, it is quite clear now that snippiness does not help matters....and I'm glad you see that, and thank you, dearie. Much appreciated....


Dawn.

 

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Indigo_Jade 
Registered: Apr '02
19249_20-Sided Die
Date Posted: 8/30/05 8:45pm Subject: RE: New leadership required time for Nominations
Actually I was being concise. There is a difference.

I really didn't want to get into this... but...

You just posted a couple posts ago a 2 paragraph explaination about how you feel wronged and hurt by people bringing up the past. I then say:


Indigo_Jade posted:
Quite honestly, I don't see where anybody has even mentioned the "past" in their posts.

If they have, please quote it.



So, I guess I will have to be snippy and ask you to Post Proof Or Retract instead of changing the subject. Let's deal with one issue at a time.

 

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TR0773 
Registered: Feb '03
15815_Royal Guard
Date Posted: 8/30/05 10:03pm Subject: RE: New leadership required time for Nominations
You know I have read the last few posts and there is obviously interpretation and miscommunication in the topic conversations, so let's keep this focused.

Politics I was not pointing out anyones particular past history I focused on the fact that since this chapter is suppose to appeal to kids and grown ups alike. We should not focus on it as it just leads to miscommunications fighting and is poor topics for kids who may be reading.

Also if Indigo and or Crazy Mike could give us "details" rules and reg, requirements, to be a CR. (I have not received any info to pass on here).
This information may help others decide if they wish to volunteer, their services.

Finally (personaly) I don't care who wants to be CR if they haven't posted in 2 yrs, haven't posted at all, or posted recently, as long as the applicant brings enthusiasim, ideas, and a morale boost, to what presently is a dwindling chapter, that has never exceeded 8 people at any one meeting all the power to them, I'll back them.

I suggest no one makes up their mind till the vote!
Listen to what all the nominees have to say and give them a chance to express their intentions, both on the boards and in a group meeting. (I suggest planning a meeting for this subject when we have a few more nominees)

So let's stay focused lets hear from those who want to volunteer or nominate someone to the position of CR for the Victoria Fan Force chapter, theres a lot that can be planned, for the end of the year and next year.

Randy

 

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CrazyMike 
Title: FF RSA Canada- JC Collecting Forum Manager
Registered: Dec '00
7931_Binary Sunset
Date Posted: 8/31/05 4:42am Subject: RE: New leadership required time for Nominations - Date Edited: 8/31/05 4:56am (1 edits total) Edited By: CrazyMike
Randy I have already told you what is first required. #1 Victoria members that wish to actively participate have to get together to meet up and figure out what they want. I want to see some candidates that are endorsed by the group not people nominating themselves. It does not work that way. Like I have said earlier I will also have to see some increased activity here by the members. That is a requirement of mine before I consider the election of a CR.


With that being said the requirements are for a CR reasonably simple, really, there are only two of them:

1. You will follow the Terms of Service of these boards to the letter. Yes, it may seem unfair of you to have to be that careful with what you post, but you do have to remember that as City Reps, you are representing your forums. You are role models for the other members of your chapter. They will be looking to you for examples of how to behave and post.

If you are concerned that what you are posting is against the TOS, don't post it. If what you are saying was fully appropriate for these boards, you would not have that small doubt about it. If you are not sure about something, contact myself and ask me - I will be more than happy to help you with any of your queries.

Further more, if you see something against the TOS posted in one of your forums, you must contact myself and have it removed. Yes, it may be an unpopular move, but part of your job is to keep your forums clean and point out to me anything that I may not have seen.

2. You must be polite, courteous and helpful at all times. We're not asking you to be perfect. I am simply telling you that you must not post with 'attitude' during your tenure as a City Rep. Once again, you are representing your forum, and must act as a role model at all time.

I have set out what will happen to you if you do not hold yourself to this, too.

The first time you will be warned. I will let you know exactly what we think you did wrong, and what we think you can do to make it not happen again.
The second time you will have a temporary demotion, time to be determined depending on the offence. Some offences will get longer punishments than others.
If you commit an offence for the third time you will be permanently demoted and I will ask your chapter to elect a new CR.



 

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NessaSolo 
Registered: May '05
14559_Princess Leia
Date Posted: 8/31/05 10:44am Subject: RE: New leadership required time for Nominations
I will restate my previous thoughts that anyone who is willing to bring enthusiasm and put a lot of effort into reviving Victoria should be welcomed. Randy has also stated this.

However, I will also agree that we need to see some action from these people.

In looking at the past few months, I have to say that Cary (Haru Windsong) and Dango have really been working the hardest at getting people to post and to arrange events (Ep3 viewings, conventions...). Cary especially seems to really be involved.

For all her effort, I would certainly back up Cary if she were interested in running for this post. However, I am more than happy for others like Dawn - who may not have been as active in the past but is now expressing enthusiasm - to also try their hand at such a role.

Really, we should all just choose someone who is going to be the best for the group. So as Mike has stated, these nominees need to show us what they are going to do.

And as a little note, regardless of who brought up what, I suggest that we all just move on and think about what's best for the group. I'm not trying to call anyone down or offend anyone, as all of the points that have been made are valid. There just comes a point where everyone has to take a step back and let it go.

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Aurra-Singg 
Registered: Oct '04
14357_Aurra Sing
Date Posted: 8/31/05 8:09pm Subject: RE: New leadership required time for Nominations
So what's involved in doing this job, then?

So far, it seems there's a moderator-like element to it, with regard to posts etc. on this forum...that seems straightforward enough.

And it also seems like there's a co-ordinator or facilitator element to it, with regard to getting people together for events etc. Well, that's only straightforward if there's a reasonable-size cadre of people who consistently want to turn up to things and-or get involved in organizing things on their own.

If nobody else takes it, I'll volunteer for the moderator part. I probably don't have time for the facilitator part.

Oh, and before people start saying "But Aurra, we don't know you!", I'll just say this: many of you do know me (a bit); you just don't know you know me. happy


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TR0773 
Registered: Feb '03
15815_Royal Guard
Date Posted: 8/31/05 10:47pm Subject: RE: New leadership required time for Nominations
You see this is what I'm getting at: Crazy Mike has given us the details I wanted for the CR position. It's what I wanted in the first place, but perhaps didn't ask for it clearly enough.

Also he has pointed out (as I understand it) that the group has to take a more active part together "simply posting a subject is insufficient" we have to meet up and actually see each other face to face, and then mention the activities we have been doing.
example. Myself, Darkside Dave, Haruwindsong, and Qui Dawn hooked up with other Star Wars enthusiaists a couple weeks ago for a BBQ, and Convention meeting, while not a quasy official function, it is FF members doing something together!

I recommend a meeting to discuss topics, I'll post this as a seperate thread, I'm still trying to keep this one, on people who would like to apply for the CR position, just so we know who is interested!

Let's keep our minds open and put a little effort into participation "other than posting" If we don't change our distant style operations soon, we'll be posting on the Western Region Forums and Tipoca City sites as the Victoria board could realisticly be shut down due to a lack of off board participation.

Let's get together.

Randy

 

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CrazyMike 
Title: FF RSA Canada- JC Collecting Forum Manager
Registered: Dec '00
7931_Binary Sunset
Date Posted: 9/1/05 5:23am Subject: RE: New leadership required time for Nominations
Once the group has had a few meetings and got a plan of how to proceed I will decide on whether a CR is required. Like I have said several times in recent days activity and interest are essential in order for a CR to be put in place.

I have a similiar situation in the London Ontario chapter. For about 2 years now the chapter has been CR less due to inactivity but in recent months interest and activity has increased so I am going to give the chapter the option to elect a CR. These are the steps that they will be following in regards to selecting a CR:

#1 members nominate who they want to see run for Cr #2 I will approach the folks that has been nominated and see if they want to run for CR. #3 I create a post of who is running #4 the members of this group sends their vote via pm to me. This keeps everything confidential and avoids any potential arm twisting by the candidates. Only members of this chapter vote. Socks and people that suddenly sign up will not be allowed to participate. If anyone has any questions about these rules please send me a pm.

In closing I just wanted to say to all of you that I want to try my best to make as many of you happy. I know it is impossible to do this but I want to be as fair as I can and I am always here if you have any questions or concerns. I have been around as RSA for a long time now and have been involved with several elections and most have gone well. I need your help and your interest to in order to get this chapter going. Please pm me if you have any questions or concerns.

Regards,

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TR0773 
Registered: Feb '03
15815_Royal Guard
Date Posted: 9/1/05 10:42am Subject: RE: New leadership required time for Nominations
So we don't even really need a CR?!? I thought a CR was required to keep the Chapter going, this little info will certainly calm things down a bit.... But we should all still get together for a meet!!

Randy

 

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CrazyMike 
Title: FF RSA Canada- JC Collecting Forum Manager
Registered: Dec '00
7931_Binary Sunset
Date Posted: 9/1/05 11:50am Subject: RE: New leadership required time for Nominations
The London chapter has gone 2 years without a CR and Toronto went almost 3.

 

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Dango 
Registered: Apr '04
19243_Boba Fett
Date Posted: 9/7/05 1:28pm Subject: RE: New leadership required time for Nominations - Date Edited: 9/7/05 1:29pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Dango
If we are still going to decide on a new chapter rep. I nominate Haruwindsong and/or Randy, it might not be a bad idea to have 2 chapter reps.

 
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Lelila 
Title: FF CR Emeritus
London ON Canada
 Registered: Jan '99
39839_Padme
Date Posted: 9/20/05 9:04pm Subject: RE: New leadership required time for Nominations
Hey Victoria!
I'm bouncing in from London ON happy
Relax and take a deep breath! It's not big deal if you don't have a CR, a chapter can easily function without one, as I can tell you from personal experience. A CR's job is not to suggest gatherings and try to get everyone together, because any member can do that and it is unfair to place that burden on one person. When I was a CR for London (also doubling as a ghost CR for Toronto because I'm involved in both cities and no one from Toronto had access to the CR forum), all I really did was liase between other Chapters to coordinate joint events, and pass on anything important from the CR forum that could be of interest on our boards. In a well functioning chapter, that's all a CR would essentially have to do.

So don't worry about it or stress now, because there is little point in coordinating between Chapters if your chapter isn't very active. It's probably more important to become active first, as Randy and Mike have said; then the best people for the job will emerge naturally.

Best of luck!
Debs

 

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haruwindsong 
Registered: Aug '04
19942_A New Hope
Date Posted: 9/29/05 4:04pm Subject: RE: New leadership required time for Nominations
Thanks for the information. I did rather wonder what the job was all about. I'd like to say thank you for the nomination, but I'm really REALLY snowed under with several projects right now, not the least of which are:

1. taking my daughter overseas at the end of March 06
2. planning for her wedding three weeks after we return from the holiday
3. L.A. WorldCon in August 06
4. RimCon Victoria 22-24 Sep 06
5. my latest novel
6. my sewing projects, including a commissioned piece
7. my writing course

 

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SabotJune 
Registered: Dec '00
Date Posted: 10/18/05 12:05am Subject: RE: New leadership required time for Nominations
Any brotha or sista who has the time, intent and interest in doing the gig's got my vote, y'all. Woot!

 
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haruwindsong 
Registered: Aug '04
19942_A New Hope
Date Posted: 12/8/05 10:07pm Subject: RE: New leadership required time for Nominations - Date Edited: 12/8/05 10:09pm (1 edits total) Edited By: haruwindsong
I hope you guys can settle on a satisfactory solution. In the interim, for those of you in the Victoria area, my kid brother and I are having our annual "Open House" over the Christmas holidays, 30 Dec (that's a Fri). Drop by anytime between 1:30pm and 10:00 pm, stay for a little while or longer. See you then.

 

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