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Saintheart
Title: Manager and Wandering Swordsman of the RPF
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Date Posted:
3/9/07 12:07am
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RE: Official Fan Film Production Thread: "Knighthood"
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Updatey goodness.
A couple of us are going to take a camera out for a spin in a couple of weekends, back to Lancelin and then the Perth Concert Hall, to do the pickups we've been talking about. Now that I'm up and running and safely married I plan to try and get the film done. There's something of a time pressure now, so everyone cross your fingers that we'll be able to do this before major life upheavals overtake us...
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Saintheart
Title: Manager and Wandering Swordsman of the RPF
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Date Posted:
4/14/07 3:36am
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We're back.
Shadow and I took a drive out to Lancelin today, sporting a decent camera and a good tripod we picked up from the Good Guys. We did the first of the pickup shots that we've wanted to get done for the past few months--and the Lancelin beach where we shot the first footage, looks as good as ever. So now we've got enough footage for the 'introduction' to the world of Gallio, where a lot of the action takes place.
From there we headed down to the 'Pyramid', which is actually called the Allan Green Conservatory, for a further couple of pickup shots. I actually had been worried; I'd heard rumours the place was closed. And so it was. Fortunately, or unfortunately depending on your view of it, some kind god had closed the doors to the place ...
But left the padlock open.
I was pretty spooked, even if we weren't doing a "28 Days Later" and blocking off the centre of London to do the shot. I can't say I've ever done guerrilla film-making before, but the rewards are apparent. The footage is in.
Tomorrow: a few more pickups at Perth Concert Hall, in costume for Shadow and myself. I've shaved my head down again, and it'll be quite a nostalgic moment when I pick up the saber again, close to three years after we shot the footage ... but I can't wait. Let's hope the predicted rain holds off for the seven or so pickup shots that we need.
I've also talked over the issues of editing and CG with Shadow, and I'm feeling pretty confident that we will actually get finished. The hologram effects, which had been my worst worry, are apparently going to be easier than I thought. The edit is actually pretty close to done as well; these pickups should put the final physical touches on the show, and then we can get down to completing ADR, sound, and CGI additions. As for CGI: we're in talks with a guy from the fanfilms boards to do the job, and there's another chap who I haven't got back to yet who has also expressed some interest. So right at this moment things are looking up. I think I believe in the resurrection again.
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Tarryn_Whiteheart
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4/14/07 7:09am
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If you need any help, I am available at various times. Camera wise, I have a Panasonic 3CCD NV-GS400 which is pretty good. I can also use 3d Studio Max, and various edit suites.
I just want you guys to get it finished 
Andrew
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Saintheart
Title: Manager and Wandering Swordsman of the RPF
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4/15/07 1:43am
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Well, we almost got all of the pickups done, but there's about three left which will take about thirty minutes or so. Unfortunately the rain didn't quite hold off long enough, but we've got most of it done. Possibly next Saturday I might be able to get the rest of it finished -- but I'm happy with what we've done so far. Anyhow, I'll keep checking in as different stages get done.
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Kartanym
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4/15/07 2:47am
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I'm glad to hear everything's coming together Saint!  Sorry I couldn't be there to help out, but never fear, that little piece I've been working on is still waiting in the wings...
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Saintheart
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4/15/07 3:42am
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Speaking of little pieces, Shadow has been contemplating CGing in a couple of blood spots on the 'lens' during that fight scene when he whacks you across the jaw with his fist ...
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Kartanym
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Ooooh! 
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Naurm
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Hey, I've been following production on this for a couple of years and the fact that there have been no updates in a while makes me hope that it's because you guys are hard at work on this. This is just one of the fanfilms I've been looking forward to for ages because the acting and story really caught my eye. Not to mention the little featurette you guys made a while back just got me pumped for the release because of other things I got to see like choreography and more examples of the acting.
Mainly this post is just to encourage you who are working on this to know that their are people besides yourself eager for the day when this is finished and released.
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Saintheart
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7/8/07 5:13pm
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I'm very happy to hear there are still people out there watching for this!
Work is still proceeding ... it's just taking time because we're all pretty much tied down to jobs. I hope to have a more substantial update over the next week.
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Shadow_of_Evil
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Date Posted:
7/16/07 5:53pm
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Hows it bros? Yah Yah, I'm back from the dead.
Good news, I've finally found my backup copy of the opening scroll and all that jizzjazz so I should be able to rap up the rough cut. Been busy as a mofo with work and climbing and what not. Got the day off today but I've got a few things to do. Hopefully tonight I'll get back to it.
Good to be back.
Mike, how's the 'bump' coming along?
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Saintheart
Title: Manager and Wandering Swordsman of the RPF
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7/16/07 6:06pm
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Hey, man, welcome back! I was about to ring you on the mobile...
I figured your job might be causing some grief. Nvrmnd
The 'bump' is doing very, very well. Doctor's happy with how the pregnancy is going, although Michelle is really starting to hate being pregnant ... back pain and all that. We're going to go see "Knocked Up" next Saturday for the sheer empathy value
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Shadow_of_Evil
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Hehehe awesome bro.
I'll pop over when I get a weekend free.
This week I'm surfing in good ole' Lancelin 
Next week I'm climbing Bluff Knoll down south, weather permitting. So I'll get in touch sometime soon I hope.
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Saintheart
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10/3/07 6:21pm
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Just an update for all concerned -- thanks to work commitments and other factors on the part of my editor/VFX guy, I am now in possession of the full set of footage for "Knighthood", and I am working through the final edit that I'm going to be pitching out to VFX guys.
Looking back at the footage, I believe much of it still packs a punch -- even when it's cold after two or more years. Sam and Elliot as our leads were a very good combination indeed, and I think we had an excellent supporting cast in what amounted to half the WA fanforce present in Perth at that time, not to mention several guys who just like to swing swords and hit people with them.
As for where we are really at right now: I anticipate finishing the visual cut in the next week or so -- that is to say, the precise order of which clips of footage will go where. This is not to say anything against the cuts Shadow made to date. I've used much of his edits as the foundation for my own, which has made the process much less arduous to say the least ... but there will always be bits and pieces that I want to use even at the protestations of smarter people. (Hey, if George Lucas can do it, why can't I?)
The sound, by contrast, will just about require its own little chop shop. In common with 90% of footage shot for the average Hollywood movie, the dialogue taken on the actual shoot was so corrupted by outside sources as to make it pretty much unusable other than as a guidepost for where the "real" dialogue should go. As such we've already rerecorded much of the dialogue for the film in a makeshift studio, but my own dialogue and about half of Shadow's still has to go into the can.
One big issue that I do have at the moment is the recruitment of VFX artists who can achieve some of the work that I need to get done. The VFX/CGI work that needs to happen on the film includes the following items (NB Spoilers follow:)
1. A short sequence where five seeker drones (think the one Luke duels on the Millennium Falcon in ANH) are floating around a Jedi padawan, who then takes them out in quick succession.
2. A short panoramic shot of the Jedi Temple (like the ones we see in the PT to set the scene whenever the Council's meeting)
3. A couple of small ships doing unobtrusive flybys inserted into live footage of the balcony at the Jedi Temple at night. (If not a building or two thrown into the background...)
4. A static shot of the Sith Interceptor from Ep 1 in a closed hangar within the Jedi Temple.
5. A long shot of the Sith Interceptor taking off and blasting out of said hangar and into the night sky. Also a separate shot of the Interceptor doing a barrel roll as it heads into the sky.
6. (This is probably the biggest part. All of it would be CGed) A series of CG'ed shots of the Sith Interceptor in a "fleeing" (but short) battle with three Z-95 Headhunters, interspersed with a live-action shot or two of the Interceptor's cockpit.
7. An over-the-shoulder view through the Interceptor's cockpit window of the "jump to hyperspace" starlines (done using a greenscreen.)
8. CG shots of the Interceptor heading for a planet, leaving a planet, entering hyperspace, leaving hyperspace.
9. CG shots of a nondescript transport heading for the same planet.
10. A very quick shot of said transport screaming past overhead (as if the camera were lying on the ground looking into the sky) at very low altitude. Also some enhancement of capital-ship-powered blaster bolts hitting a small model house -- enhancement of the raw explosion footage we used. And possibly (I haven't decided) computer enhancement of the raw model to make it look a little more like a building.
11. Another "drone killing" sequence where the drones are more like the interrogation droids from ANH, getting sabered by the padawan -- again inserted into live footage.
12. Rotoscoping of a 6 on 2 saber duel which lasts about two, three minutes.
13. Rotoscoping of a duel at the start and at the end of the film.
14. Rotocoping of a lightsaber going through a door and then being withdrawn.
...On this, I've been spruiking for help on the SciFi 3D forum, the fanfilms forum, and I've been pegging specific people on the boards whom I hope are well-connected (lordvaderff for example). As far as a success rate goes, I've got someone who's interested in doing the drone shots at (1) and (11), and someone who seems to be interested in doing a bit of rotoscoping, but that's about all I have at the moment.
In a pinch I'd say I've got enough resources with the cast and crew to get the rotoscoping and the holograms done, but what I'm really lacking right now is a CGI/3D artist (or, indeed, artists) who could do some, if not all of the CG work that's left over. If anyone does know somebody in that vein, whether here or overseas (ftp is my friend ) or indeed they're in Western Australia and think they could assist in a volunteer capacity, I would be very, very thankful if they could contact me by PM, here, or on thinblackline@hotmail.com...
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Saintheart
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Date Posted:
10/14/07 8:56pm
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Today I've got my acknowledgment: the guy who is doing the drone sequences has the footage I sent him on yousendit, and he's going to get back to me in a couple of days. So with any luck items (1) and (11) are now covered. The process continues...
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Saintheart
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11/8/07 6:58pm
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Updatey goodness.
drewjmore, the user who volunteered to do the drone sequences for the movie, has turned in a second draft of his work. Michelle, my wife has seen it and was blown away by the first sequence (albeit that it was only 16 seconds) although the fanfilms community has been constructively critical of the work. There's a nice chaos of movement going on in that sequence, and Elliot looks l33t.
Simon Gillespie, the guy who's basically stood up to do the rest of the VFX, has indicated he's having a serious RL crisis and won't be up to full-on work until post-Christmas. So I'll follow him up then; six more weeks isn't going to faze me given I've been going four years on this...
Hopefully, though, we'll have a snippet or two of footage before the year's out to tease people with.
Naurm, if you're reading this, apologies that I haven't got back to you yet. I will do so ASAP.
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