Lit Fleet Junkie Flagship- Enjoying time in dry dock!

I wonder if Krennel kept his head down while Thrawn came back - that must've been a blow to acknowledge his leadership again, even if only briefly.

I recall the old WEG Star Wars Sourcebook saying it was 10% of Imperial ships in the Core.

The TEGTW endnotes (part 7) helpfully point out that while theoretically the minimum in a Sector Group is 24, in practice there will be much less in many Rim sectors.

Yes, but the average in ISB is 24. Average. To get an average we take the total known amounts and divide by sectors. Since there's sectors with less, there is also sectors with more than the average to get that number in the first place.

Yes, I've also previously pointed out the 10% of the navy being in reserve. The source for 50% of all Imperial-class ships eludes me.

Got some juicy news that's not SW-related, but I know a lot of people enjoyed Ansel Hsiao's renders, so I thought this might be ok to mention: He's confirmed on SDN that the new non-SW work he's commissioned to do is the UNSC Infinity in Halo 4. Not the one seen in the trailer, but a newer render. He'll showcase it when the game is out.

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Got some ship images from the Journal of Master Gnost-Dural:
Imperial landing craft.
Interdictor-inspired Sith vessels attacking Korriban.
Mandalorian cruisers.
Sith armada attacking a planet. This was probably in one of the Timeline videos, too.

Is it just me, or do those fighters in the Mando fleet look a lot like the Mandalmotors fighters used in Galaxies?

Hmm, they remind me of something from the X-wing games.

Does anyone know the size of the Republic and Sith Fleet during the KOTOR era?

Most of this is from memory, and my memory isn't that good, and I'm not that knowledgeable, especially compared to a lot of other people in this thread, but I think this is the general state of things for the KotOR era. The KotOR Campaign Guide, if you can find a copy as it has long been out of print unfortunately (and we probably won't ever see an e-copy as WotC doesn't even hold the license anymore and Lucasfilm doesn't seem to bother keeping online copies of much stuff anymore, besides TCW anyway) has plenty about the Republic fleet during the KotOR era though.

The Essential Guide to Warfare also talks about the subject too, of course, although I don't think there was that much new, but again, my memory isn't good (although the Guide had a lot on pre-TotJ/KotOR era stuff too).

As for size... we don't ever get exact numbers, I think, but it was very large, although Republic ships often got stolen by the Sith for their own fleets, but then Sith in this era were usually fallen Jedi who were building their own Sith empires.

The Republic had problems during the Great Sith War, with the Krath uprising, then Ulic and the Mandalorians stole a lot of warships from the Foerost shipyards. After that, as detailed in the KotOR Campaign Guide, the Republic rebuilt and changed things up, although not necessarily for the better, something corporate related, but it led to the Republic Navy having a lot more credits suddenly, enough to rebuild the Navy into what we see in KotOR. Rendili was pumping out Hammerheads like crazy during those years, I think I read somewhere they could build one Hammerhead every ten days or something like that, so that's probably a lot of Hammerheads. Heck, the Inexpugnable-class was partially sold as a command ship just to manage that many Hammerheads at once.

Then the Mandalorians invaded and the Republic took plenty of heavy losses. Centurion-class ships were around, and the Warfare guide had an in-universe source mentioning a fleet of Interdictors during the war too. I haven't played KotOR II yet, but I think I've read that by the end of the Mandalorian Wars, at Malachor V, Revan basically destroyed most of the Mando fleet, also sacrificing a third of the remaining Republic fleet, particularly those who wouldn't choose loyalty to Revan over the Republic. Then Revan and Malak ran off with another third of the fleet, including most or all of the remaining Centurions I think, leaving the Republic with a third, mostly made up of Hammerheads and Forays (with the Inexpugnables probably either all destroyed by that point, or too troublesome to use). Then Revan and Malak returned as Sith Lords. I forget if Karath defected with the Leviathan before or after that particular war started, after I think, based on some of Carth's conversations, but not entirely sure. Anyway, originally Darth Revan and Malak probably had about a third of the Republic fleet loyal to them, but they also had the Star Forge, so essentially had unlimited resources. Losing the only spaceworthy Interdictor to Revan's Sith Empire didn't help either, as then the Star Forge made plenty of copies of it.

Even after the darkside KotOR ending, according to KotOR II the Star Forge turned out to be too dangerous to use, as in both lightside and darkside endings Revan left to look for the True Sith Empire either way, and without Revan around, no other Sith was powerful enough to use the Star Forge or something like that. In the lightside ending, the Sith Empire fell apart without Revan or Malak around anymore. Although the Republic wasn't in much better shape. The Sith triumvirate still had enough ships to menace a major world like Telos, but by then the fleet sizes were probably still close to equal, especially without the Star Forge producing ships anymore.

Ah, the Journal of Master Gnost-Dural. Even with the game going free to play, I still don't mind (mostly) getting the Collector's Edition for that alone. Although most of the art is from the Timeline videos I think, or at least variations on it, but plenty of nice details on the Great Galactic War, not to mention adding in references from more recent stuff. Like Gnost-Dural mentioned that before the catastrophic Battle of Hoth the Republic fleet could have handled the Mando blockade, but it apparently still hadn't recovered by then.

I've read somewhere that after the Great Sith War the Republic mass-produced Hammerheads and the Rendili Hyperworks finished one ship every ten days. 37 Hammerheads per year and so ~1300 at the start of the Mandalorian Wars. But there were more shipyards than just the Rendili Hyperworks.

I come to ask the opinion of the Fleet Junkies on the issue of the Megador's class. Wookieepedia refers to it as Super-class and yet I thought that class was retconned as being a fictional class made to deceive the public and Senate. Anyway, I wonder what you guys think the Megador 's class is.

It is comparable to Reaper and Dominion, so for a quick gut answer, I'd say a late model Executor. 16 engines is different from the standard Executor 13, so it maybe has another engine bank, or replaced the three big banks of 3 engines with 3 banks of 4 smaller ones.

@AdmiralWesJanson

Yeah, a late model Executor-class makes the most sense, IMO. Let's face it- when an EU author, especially Troy Denning, refers to an SSD, he means the SSD seen in ROTJ.

Per the EGTW, the Empire commissioned about 20 known Executor-class dreadnoughts, so KDY editing the engine arrangement on one of the later models makes sense. Hell, we already know of other revisions made to the class (the Lusyanka being armed with primarily anti-starfighter, the Intimidator having extra shield projectors, etc).

The thing that is most interesting about the Megador to be is that she was either captured by the New Republic at one point or lent to the GADF when the Empire joined the Alliance. When it was only Pellaeon in command of the Megador, I assumed she was a Remnant vessel that was on GA duties as part of the Empire's status as an Allied Autonomous Region. However, given that she is still in the GADF under Bwua'tu's command at the end of FOTJ, I am wondering is the vessel was actually a GA warship.

--Adm. Nick

I always wondered if the Lusi got her Anti fighter refit by the Imperials (before she was buried on Coruscant) or when the Rebels partially rebuild her. The later making somewhat more sense.

They properly pooled warships during the Vong War and would keep a lot of them in the new GA defense fleet.

it's given as a Rebel/New Republic estimate- with the proviso that some ships may have existed "off the books" and conversely, that some ships may have been "on the books" but not actually built- as cover in the budget for various secret projects.

Even with the Megador & Dominion added in, I think it's currently below the 20 at the moment- leaving room for more named Executors in later books.

I'm guessing the "8 km Super Star Destroyer" in Destiny's Way was one or the other of those two (given the TEGTW endnote suggesting that most authors meant an Executor-class unless they explicitly stated otherwise).

BFC implied that there were something like a "Executor-II" class (in the discussions of the Intimidator) that had changes from the original model - I'm guessing the Megador falls into that category (especially since there's a reference to have "five times the firepower of the ISD-II", a callback to the infamous line about the Executor).

Yeah, not sure who the Megador belonged to. While we first saw it as Pellaeon's command ship, he was GA Supreme Commander at the time, and ever since we've only seen the GA using it. Even when the Imperial Remnant tried to grab some more territory, the Megador was still part of GA fleets (and even had long-range turbolasers installed, which doesn't seem like something the GA would share with the Imps). Now maybe it was lent to the GA, but still, that's kind of a big favor, even when Pellaeon was made temporary then permanent Supreme Commander. And even after Pellaeon was gone, the Megador is still seen in GA hands, and given the Imps lose the Dominion too, you'd think they would want their star dreadnought back.

Its new origin as part of Pellaeon's fleet during the Orinda campaign does give more weight to Orinda, as with three star dreadnoughts that gave Pellaeon a reasonable chance of holding a decent amount of territory.

Still not sure about the bit about the Lusankya having more anti-starfighter weapons than normal. Maybe it was after the New Republic repaired her, but it could have been originally built like that, but that makes it seem even stranger Rogue Squadron won against it. Or maybe Rogue Squadron is simply that good?

Its always hard to tell how much the Empire had built. No one knew the Lusankya existed until it blasted its way out of Coruscant. And considering how many other superweapons were under construction, a few dreadnoughts here or there are relatively easy to lose track of, especially compared to the Death Stars (but then the Navy was really worried about losing all their funding to that). And the Warfare guide even mentioned Mandator IIIs. Although by the NJO era the New Republic probably had most of the remaining known star dreadnoughts. DW showed the Remnant had at least one left (no idea if it was Megador or Dominion), while the Galactic Alliance still has Guardian lying around somewhere (presumably). Might be an interesting tale to find out how Megador transferred from the Remnant to under GA control.

Maybe the Megador/Dominion are Mandators-I's or II's if the thought is they are in the 8 km region. I am hoping for a new design, maybe a Rendili or Loronar battleship, or maybe something from the many other worlds that should be making ships of this size

Personally I'd like Megador and Dominion to be something other than Exes - if we're going to have Mandators, Bellators, and Assertors running about we might as well have them in the spotlight. Given that we still have no depiction of a Mandator, Megador's 16 engines could be a characteristic of a Mandator-III. I also figure there's a bit of an implication they were "lesser" ships than the Reaper. Neither took lead combat roles in LotF, which might indicate they were older ships relegated to secondary duties.

As far as the differences seen in the Intimidator versus the baseline Executor, those appear to have been minor - enough so that it took the GFFA's resident Fleet Junkie to pick them out. Executor and Lusankya actually seem to have had quite noticeable superstructure differences as compared to the later ships of the class (superstructure comes to a point, rather than being truncated).

There's a reference to an 8 km SSD in Destiny's Way, when the Remnant receives Republic ambassadors. Prime Mandator I/II candidate.