Clone Wars The Grim Twins versus the Galaxy?

I-I'm not sure I can do that.

I don't like maul or savage. They are ok but I prefer cad bane and general grevious and the bounty hunters much better. I also hated the mandalore episodes with the dutches, like i couldnt stand all those boring lame episodes.

Seems like the only thing we got from the S5 teaser was darth maul/savage and the wannabe mandalorians. They took my two favorite plot points and made them the focus of the season. This sucks, I wish they just used the bounty hunters and maybe other villains more.

Agreed. In my opinion I view the clone wars as an alternate reality type show, due to all the canon issues. grevious being super weak, ashoka, ventress, even piell's death, and all of that combiened with the ultimate failure darth maul's survival. So I just view this as a fun, alternate reality show. Remember it is geared for kids and making sense canon wise is not one of their top priorities for sure.

So I still say maul died on Naboo

I don't really see Savage and Maul as all that mysterious, considering we know they ain't gonna win.

By the time ROTS rolls around it's Republic vs Confederacy, Jedi vs Sith and the victors are the Sith and the Empire formed out of the Republic.

Well then the whole show would be unpredictable because we know all of the main characters are safe. I don't think thats the right way to approach the show.

I have to say I really dislike the prospect of such a heavy focus on Maul and Savage, and not solely because of Maul's survival.

They are eye candy, or rather they are action figures. One's story has now boiled down to the word "brother," while the other is a one-dimensional psycho with nothing but a vendetta moving him forward. They are not the least bit compelling and only stand out because of their visual appeal and "cool" factor, which I for one have already grown entirely sick of. It's things like their inclusion and prominence that almost make me scoff when people say "oh it's not just a kid's show." Sorry to break it to you, but that's exactly what it is, because the occasional violence doesn't make up for the fact that this is the most child-friendly "war" I've ever seen.

So yes, I feel their continued relevance is pretty much a confirmation that the show has lost its way. I hate the notion of them becoming the third major faction in the war because it just screams to me, "we're desperate and are going for broke with cheap fan service, instead of trying to develop an actually compelling new story with the freaking galaxy of characters and opportunities at our disposal." I'm giving the grim twins one last chance with their next outing, but if they once again offer nothing more than frequent snarling than I'm done with them and will resign myself to skipping any of their future arcs.

Besides that Ahsoka arc, I'm already planning on skipping the Maul and Randy episodes myself. I still haven't seen Randy's first two appearance episodes and I am really distancing myself from them.

I think there's a lot they can do with Randy and Maul, Randy in particular. I think they have a lot of potential for character development, I just don't see TCW using that potential based upon precedent set both by TCW and mostly the Star Wars franchise in general. Randy and Maul are stereotypes, they're stuck in a very limited perception of their characters and though I think they can break that confinement in a big way, I'm skeptical as to the likelihood of TCW actually doing it.

I hope I'm wrong. Look at what they've done with Ventress, though the comics started it, Katie Lucas ran with it.

Wait who is randy?

Wit up a minute this show has MAD violence I'm surprised at all the death scenes it has. Has more violence than any other kids show

There are few episodes I've seen more than once. Very few.

Randy Savage aka Savage in TCW

We call him Randy

Man, the replies to this are so LACWACkin' predictable.. -__-

I kid, I kid.

But seriously what did you expect? I agree with 5309 that Randy has potential, but given the precedent I really doubt it's going to be realized. He was originally an engaging individual looking out for his brother, but any and all characterization was lost when he became Ventress' tool, so I really doubt we're going to get any more development out of him. (No, a severed limb does not count as character advancement. )

My other point though was that regardless of the violence it depicts this is still very much a children's show. The plots are simplistic and very rarely delve into the darker aspects of the war, and in that way it retains its kid-friendly nature. The violence it depicts is glorified- the children only see blue bolts flying around and puffs of smoke for explosions. What they aren't exposed to are bloody depictions of severed limbs, pale corpses, and mothers and fathers crying over their lost children (aka the consequences of violence and war). Maybe this show isn't appropriate for very young children, but if my kids were above the age of six I'd have no reservations about letting them watch this series- it's just more of the same action.

Don't get me wrong, I do enjoy this show a good lot of the time despite its flaws, but it irks me when people play it off as anything more than a children's cartoon.

TCW Grievous isn't any weaker than ROTS Grievous. In fact, in TCW we've seen Obi-Wan running away from him, and that didn't happen in ROTS.