Discussion in 'Television' started by Jenna Noi, Apr 19, 2012.
Nah. Wouldn't count any SW with time travel in my canon.
And Doctor Who.
Have you read it?
No, but you'd be surprised how stubborn and dismissive I can be.
Its good, trust me.
Better than H.G. Wells?
Crosscurrent was a great novel.
If you can count surviving being cut in half, falling hundreds or thousands of feet, and then growing spider legs in your canon...
You're the one who counts the so-called Sith eyes, dude.
And until you can bring up a serious argument against them, I'll continue to.
Dude... Okay you're seriously going to make me dig up that thread. Fine, will do.
Back by popular demand.
I also like my new example I thought of for this thread on the previous page. Savage Opress piloting a ship is super-Dark Side, apparently, way more so than actual Sith Lords in the middle of the vast majority of their fights in the films.
I certainly don't want time-travel in SW, but some episodes that take place further back in the timeline would be awesome. I always thought a flashback episode involving young Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon on an adventure would be great. Now that they have both models (They just need to add hair to shaved Obi-Wan from Deception), all they have to do is get Liam Neeson in the sound booth again.
Since I think Palpatine was using a "mask" while fighting Windu and Dooku just wasn't evil enough, I don't think see any noticeable inconsistencies in the movies. Obviously there is to be in The Clone Wars, which was kind of my point, that it was a sort of character change for Dooku.
Just because they may be used inconsistently at times, that doesn't mean there's no such thing as Sith eyes. No offence, but I'm having a hard time taking that argument seriously.
That's okay, I've never heard an argument that so-called "Sith eyes" are an actual thing that exist that I've been able to take seriously. And I'm still listening.
That's a fine personal canon interpretation with Palps, but if we're just going off what we see and hear in the films and TCW, the contradiction stands. I didn't have to count any of my personal interpretations to come up with my long list of glaring contradictions.
Darth Tyranus was a Sith Lord. You're calling them Sith eyes. If you can be a Sith Lord and not be evil enough to have Sith eyes, then there's no such thing as "Sith eyes" or it's so convoluted and contrived that it would have to have a definition the length of a book to cover the myriad different ways they've attempted to implement the idea. Which would prove the term really has no meaning.
If they've never been able to use the idea consistently by any metric whatsoever, then it's just a flop I can't take seriously or count in my canon.
The portrayal may be inconsistent, but seeing as how it is used, it definitely is some kind of indication for people being 'on the dark side'. Ahsoka's eyes change too (on Mortis). Sure, Dooku doesn't have them, but that doesn't mean the eyes mean nothing. *shrug*
Are you saying when Anakin's eyes change in RotS, it means nothing? Because it's clearly an indicator that he has given in to the dark side since becoming Sidious' apprentice.
Yeah, we talked about this more in-depth in the thread I linked up there with my three big quotes. My personal canon does account for it, and even in my personal canon it is connected to Dark Side use for Anakin (and technically Zabrak Dark Side users as well but in a different way).
I always liked the idea that the Emperor in Ep. VI got that way by physically deteriorating from using the Dark Side, which would have included the eyes, but it got hard to keep that in my canon after I saw Ep. III. I respect Drew's view on that, but I prefer the more plain interpretation.