If that was really Qui-Gon AND if he'd been watching from the Netherworld, he'd know that Obi-Wan was training Anakin as requested - hence, stupid for him to ask, although I wish I could retract the "stupid" and rephrase that. If Obi-Wan merely thought he was a vision, his subconscious might float that question, I suppose, if a part of him deep down thought Qui-Gon might think he hadn't kept his promise, but - I don't know. It just seems out of place as it's phrased. Edited to address Lady Misty's post: That's a great little story. Maybe the grandson had been thinking of family and/or his "legacy"? On Mortis it seems to come from nowhere - now if Qui-Gon asked, "Are you training Anakin with an eye to his being raised with his mother" or something, now that I suppose I might see - a way of prodding Obi-Wan to open his mind via a question rather than statement
Whoever wrote that scene apparently forgot about Qui-Gon in AOTC. As a result, it comes off as inconsistent with the film. ( Also, according to ROTS and the Annotated Screenplays, the Force ghosts have "passed through" or "returned from" the netherworld but do not reside there. )
Can we expect more Qui-Gon Jinn mystery between the controversy of the resurrected Darth Maul and Obi-Wan? And in ROTS, Yoda explains to Kenobi that his Master has learned from the ways of the Force to become a Force ghost, so did Jinn learn it DURING TCW?
I don't think Qui-Gon's "Noo!" in Ep. II is a problem with Mortis at all. Just like Qui-Gon could have been "stuck" in the Netherworld of the Force until Mortis and might not be sure himself if the Obi-Wan he's talking to is the real Obi-Wan, the "Noo!" also could have come as a result of Qui-Gon sensing Anakin's actions while still stuck in the Netherworld, and when he cries out he might not even know that anyone heard him. It doesn't mean he knows everything that's going on with Anakin and Obi-Wan, that's a leap the viewer would have to make. So it'd be contradicting an assumption, maybe, but not anything explicit. Thus no real contradiction.
No, he was audible in AOTC. While an interesting idea, I don't see how it changes anything in this context. It's not that he's assumed to necessarily know everything ( an idea which may create its own problems ), it's that he says nothing about the Tusken incident or his reaction to it. Not a Piell-class contradiction, surely, but an unlikely omission.
We don't know exactly what Qui-Gon felt in the Force that he was reacting to, there are many possibilities, but we're close enough to agreement already.
This is possible in the future. I don't remember where, it might be in the old Season 4 premiere interview with Christian Taylor but it was said TCW would never go back to Mortis but there would be more Mortis like episodes and exploration of what happened there.
I think it was Obi-wan using Qui-Gon's image to represent something, not Qui-Gon appearing as a force ghost. Either way I think the odds are good when this series is done some one will right a book in the EU that explains it all.
Yet Qui-Gon appeared to Anakin later on, which tends to reinforce the idea the first apparition was real - or neither were.
This thread just gave me what I think is a freaking awesome idea. In the last season of TCW, when the darkness is really taking over the Force, we could see Yoda's first commune with the ghost of Qui-Gon. They could briefly touch on what he felt in Ep. II and the Mortis arc, and it would be an explanatory bit supporting that line at the end Ep. III.
That's a great idea. Jinn and Yoda could talk about Anakin's attachment to others and how the shape of the war is affecting him. They should go to a cantina and chat and listen to some music.
QUI-GON: By the way (belch), there's something I need to tell you about P- YODA: Eh? QUI-GON: -------- YODA: More to say, have you? Hello? There, is anyone? FORCE: ** CONNECTION LOST **
Operator: "I'm sorry, the number you have called has been moved due to a new rule by the Galactic Empire. Please try again when the Force has been restored."
I think its quite likely that it was just a manifestation/hallucination of Qui-Gon that was either related to Mortis or Obi-wan's mind (in other words, like in a dream, Obi-wan's subconscious created a version of Qui-Gon), or perhaps a mix of both. After all, this theory makes more sense with Obi-wan's reaction in ROTS about Qui-Gon.
Not a damn thing on Mortis made sense to me, this is no exception. I'm going with "not really Qui-Gon" because Obi-Wan seemed genuinely surprised in ROTS that Yoda had been communing with him. It also seems that Obi-Wan would sense the real Qui-Gon and not draw his lightsaber as he appears. But we're talking about a series in which Anakin turned to the Dark Side in order to prevent a vision of himself turning to the Dark Side from coming true, so who the hell knows.
Why would it make Ep. III a problem? Yoda says he has new training to give him from an old friend, and Obi-Wan only needs a second to think before he goes "Qui-Gon!" It's not as if they played a guessing game and Kenobi was clueless. If anything, I think their scene in Overlords makes that part in Ep. III make a little more sense, not any less.
I like to think it was. They went ahead and tried to get Neeson to voice him (and succeeded) so I think they'll end up saying that it was him that showed up on Mortis.* *if Mortis really happened.
