Discussion in 'Television' started by Sith Star Slayer, Jul 10, 2012.
So Randy is half-human too? Cool.
Maul's real name is Maul.
So, no, that one doesn't count.
I hated that.
Feral was useless, that should have been Maul's birth name.
Has it's own gen ne se pa quoh, to it...
I say useless given the spoilers.
Ehhh... in a Galaxy full of intermingling species, I wouldn't think that inter-species relationships would be uncommon. Heck, a gotal was apparently going to try his luck with a H'nemthe according to the EU's take on the pair in the cantina. And weren't Fisto and Secura pushing it too at one point?
Yet for all such relationships that you think would be occurring in a galaxy of trillions, the Sith-human hybrids were the only hybrids I was aware of prior to the retcon that made Ventress and Maul hybrids, which conspicuously don't show traits of either parent species.
I used to think that inter-species relationships must be conducted with the understanding that there is a lack of genetic compatibility, given the absence of hybrids. But now... Lucas could decide that there are no such thing as Nautolans and that Kit Fisto is a human-quarren hybrid, and at this point I wouldn't bat an eyelash.
Hey even Tigers and Lions can have babies. LOL
google for LIGER
I have done some "reseaerch"
A list of people who are hybrids. I think its possible with Tricks and Luck. NATURE will find a way. LOL
That kids are indeed Human/Twilek Hybrids.
Cut is not their father, because Clones are sterilyzed i think?
Sue and her kids seems to be not accepted by twilek community, because of making kids with a human!
I think it has culturel reasons not genetical, that there is so less hybrids. All known Hybrids are some kind of outsiders (Like ventress, like aura sing, like sues kids..)
I wonder if the human/zabrak hybrids are natural, i know the sith/human ones were not first created by natural means.
I do hope that they can explain how zabraks can have kids with humans. Reasons could be....
1. The dark side was used, like how it was to create the 1st sith/human hybrids.
2. Or perhaps zabraks would be retconned as near-humans, therefore making hybrids possible since they are both technically human.
I hope that the reason for how these hybrids can exist, is not "just because", because if that is the reason, then why not have all the humanoid aliens be able to interbreed with humans? That would be stupid, i don't want to see star wars become more like star trek.
I think we are talking about hybrids of 2 different species (like a hybrid from an alien and a human). We already know that hybrids between near-humans and humans is possible, after all, they are all technically part of the same species of Mankind, so it makes sense....unlike those hybrid twilek/human kids who's sole purpose is to screw with canon (a canon which said twileks could not interbreed with humans....which actually made sense).
Retconning twi'leks as a human offshoot seems like the best way to justify it- if they wanted to do it that way.
The most dramatic case of fertile offspring between two different genera I've heard of, on Earth, is the Wolphin- hybrid of False Killer Whale and Bottlenose Dolphin. False Killers look pretty different (and are much larger), and sometimes eat bottlenoses in the wild.
I was under the impression that Maul had two hearts....
Has that been changed?
I agree on your first point, but I really dislike all this intermingling anyway.
I'm no biologist, but I'm pretty sure hybridization leads to infertility in the resulting offspring a majority of the time because of some complication with the differing number of genes. If they were to go the way of saying that twi'leks are just one branch away from humans than it would be moderately more plausible as they might be then within the same genera, but all the same it becomes a messy situation that I'd rather they just avoid for the sake of maintaining a slightly realistic tone. Besides, god knows there's already enough interspecies fetishism in the SW fandom as is...
Canon is what Lucas says and Today these Twilek/Human Kids are Canon.
Twileks are humanoids.
Hutts for example are Non Humanoids or Wookies are also Non Humanoids.
Star Trek at least "explained" hybridization between species like vulcans and humans away in an episode of The Next Generation through revealing that there was an ancient humanoid species that seeded planets with their DNA before going extinct and so life of several planets evolve a long similar pathways leading to different - yet genetically compatible - humanoids on different planets (which still doesn't make sense, since it doesn't take into consideration drastic environmental differences or the randomness of mutation).
I don't know if the EU ever addressed the origins of species/life for the Star Wars universe, but given how forced an explanation was in Star Trek, plus the fact that Star Wars has a larger element of fantasy, I'd say just suspend disbelief. I don't see how it's anything that can be rationalized short of Star Wars-God(s) being a proponent of intelligent design
As for hybridization leading to infertility, that's not always the case, but that depends on how you define what a species is. Some textbooks I had in school always explained that a key feature in defining a species is the ability to produce fertile offspring, in which case if a False Killer Whale and a Bottlenose Dolphin produce viable offspring (which I do believe has happened, and both are classified in different genera, let alone species), then it means that they are not different species at all and are really the same, albeit evolving to look very different. So far as I know, they still remain classified as different species however. And as I went on to higher levels of education I remember other books and classes teaching me that there are other schools of thought on what exactly defines a species, such as placing less importance on the ability to breed and a greater importance on morphology and statistical significances in physical traits between two populations (e.g. if an animal is extinct, you'll never know if it could breed successfully with another animal). And a lot of it today can also just be done with genetics.
I also think that 3,000,000 years is the average "lifespan" of a species. So, if you want to apply real world science to a GFFA, then humans and Zabrak and Twi'lek all should have diverged from each other within that time limit.
But a simpler solution is space-magic.
Male hybrids are usually sterile however females are often fertile. Tigon females for example are usually fertile and many a zoo has made the mistake of not putting them on birth control believing them to sterile only to end up with a surprise. We could also really muddy this up with multi-generational hybrids (F1-F5).
aww, Lots of "accident" babies.
Maul's "other" brother...