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Love/romance advice lounge- no question too small, no question too large
jedi_john_33
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Sep '03
Date Posted:
1/11/04 4:21pm
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RE: Love/romance advice lounge- no question too small, no question too large
we go through plenty of pain to compensate for childbirth, and im tired of women using that as a precedence for everything
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Teniel Djo
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Date Posted:
1/11/04 4:37pm
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RE: Love/romance advice lounge- no question too small, no question too large
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All I'm saying is that I understand that it's not within your ability to test that. No matter how much the man from Monty Python's Life of Brian wanted it. I was only using it to show what IS within your ability to understand. And that if the man I love ever wants me to wear a thong, I will. If he does first.
I am not even joking.
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darkknight_152002
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1/11/04 5:06pm
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RE: Love/romance advice lounge- no question too small, no question too large
How do you know if you are in love? Are there any symptoms?
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WMCoolmon
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May '02
Date Posted:
1/11/04 5:16pm
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RE: Love/romance advice lounge- no question too small, no question too large
What exactly is the big deal about someone asking someone else to wear a thong? Especially when the asker
bought
them, so it's not like they even have to spend any money...just say yes or no.
Not all women go through childbirth. I'm not even sure why it was brought up. Even with my limited powers of male understanding, I'm sure that childbirth is a lot more likely to hurt a lot more than wearing a thong.
Soooo....that being said, my two cents on the subject of thongs: if your girlfriend said no already, asking again would just get her annoyed and wouldn't help anything.
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IkritMan
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Date Posted:
1/11/04 5:20pm
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RE: Love/romance advice lounge- no question too small, no question too large
If she doesn't want to wear a thong, end of discussion. Why do you want her to wear a thong? Just so you can drool at her? I'm sure she thinks that is dumb, and if it is uncomfortable, then don't ask her to do it.
I think you should wear a thong too, maybe that would change her mind. LoL.
And I am very tired of women using childbearth as an excuse for everything. Especially since women are usually the ones who want children in the first place...
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darkknight_152002
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1/11/04 5:26pm
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RE: Love/romance advice lounge- no question too small, no question too large
How do you know if you are in love? Are there any symptoms?
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PadawanEmily
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1/11/04 5:27pm
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RE: Love/romance advice lounge- no question too small, no question too large
DK- You know when you love someone cause your always thinking of them, you find yourself thinking of them, when normally you wouldnt be thinking of them.
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darkknight_152002
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1/11/04 5:47pm
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RE: Love/romance advice lounge- no question too small, no question too large
DK- You know when you love someone cause your always thinking of them, you find yourself thinking of them, when normally you wouldnt be thinking of them.
Is there anything else I should be concerned about?
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PadawanEmily
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1/11/04 5:48pm
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RE: Love/romance advice lounge- no question too small, no question too large
COncerned? Do you not want to fall in love with this person? Do you not want to fall in love?
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PadawanEmily
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1/11/04 5:52pm
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RE: Love/romance advice lounge- no question too small, no question too large
DK-Yes there's symptoms....constantly thinking of the person no matter what, jealousy, always feel bored when the person isn't around, you feel alive when the person is around, you care for the persons safety, and overall you enjoy being with the person......
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darkknight_152002
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1/11/04 5:59pm
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RE: Love/romance advice lounge- no question too small, no question too large
DK-Yes there's symptoms....constantly thinking of the person no matter what, jealousy, always feel bored when the person isn't around, you feel alive when the person is around, you care for the persons safety, and overall you enjoy being with the person......
This person sparks my interests and I have similar tastes. I've known this person for a long time, too.
Your reply nailed me.
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PadawanEmily
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1/11/04 6:01pm
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LY told me..cause that's what he feels for me....If your looking at this LY you know thats true too
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darkknight_152002
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I was only asking you people a question...
Thanks for the replies. If you can give more, please do...
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Connemara
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Date Posted:
1/12/04 5:33am
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RE: Love/romance advice lounge- no question too small, no question too large
Sithmaster12
- Well, if the fact that this girl won't wear thongs is seriously upsetting your relationship, I think it's time for it to end. Why? Because it's obvious your interest is in the physical, and that's almost meaningless compared to the deeper bond that should form in a relationship. Even if people don't realize it, everyone seeks this bond, and the physical bond just seems like the easy way to achieve that, and honestly, it's not. I'm not going to say "don't have sex with her", I believe with that with all my heart, but it's your call. However, if it's that important to you that she looks sexy, you, and maybe her too, are focusing on the wrong things.
Teniel
- "I really don't think it would be asking too much for me to at least know if I'm gonna have a happy ending. I know that a happy ending is what I make it--blah, blah, blah--but I'd like to know if I'll ever meet someone I'll spend the rest of my life with. I'm not even asking to know who, or even when, really. All I'd really like to know is if it will happen at all. Or if I'll end up living in a house with fifty cats and find myself glaring bitterly at children as they play outside"
And that is *exactly* how I feel. I agree, it's not fair that we have to worry about becoming old maids. Everyone's like "well of course you're going to find someone!" and some of my friends assure me *they* didn't even get serious about dating until they were in their twenties. Really, I've had more expereince at an earlier age than some of the happiest couples I know. If expereince means anything in this game, and I don't know. So there's hope for both of us, and plenty of it. It does get frustrating, though. It's really annoying because for most of my life I believed the battle was won if I could just get the guy I liked to *notice* me. Well, now all the hot guys notice me, in a "hey, wanna play ping-pong?" or "gee, you're a good friend" way! In some ways that's even worse because when I was too shy to meet these people, when I would just stare at them from a distance and try to get up enough nerve to wave, I could at least think that *if* they met me, they'd ask me out.
So there you have it, my rant. But I totally, completly know where you're coming from, just wanna let you know of that.
Darkknight
- Yeah, people got it pretty well, though I hafta say, in my expereince when you're in love, you already *know* it. It's a natural wisdom that comes to you, I think. That doesn't mean you might not be falling in love, but I don't think you're quite there yet, however.
WMCoolmon
- Well, all women *do* go through menstruation once a month, which is almost as bad. Not that childbirth isn't extremely painful, but come on, starting when we're like 11 or 12, we are in pain and all messed up inside once a *month*. That really strikes me as unfair, much more so than the childbirth thing. So give us a little respect. Maybe you big strong menfolks are better at hauling lumber and playing football, but we have to be strong in our own way, too.
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dizfactor
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Aug '02
Date Posted:
1/12/04 7:33am
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RE: Love/romance advice lounge- no question too small, no question too large
jeez, why is everyone jumping all over poor
SithMaster12
because he asked his girlfirend to wear thongs?
Teniel Djo
, don't assume that because you don't like wearing thongs that no one does. personally, i know a lot of women who only wear thongs if they can help it. for those people that like them, it seems that once you get used to wearing them, it's hard going back to anything else, and they feel more comfortable than other underwear. in any case, they sell like mad, and i see people with them sticking out all the time, so somebody must be wearing them.
SithMaster12
isn't totally out of line or out of his mind here.
as far as "What's this obsession with having stuff shoved up your girlfriend's butt, anyway?" goes, what's wrong with two consenting adults stuffing things up one or the other's butt?
Connemara
, i find your statement that physical relationships are almost meaningless next to the "
deeper
bond that
should
form in a relationship" (emphasis mine) extremely offensive. who are you, exactly, to tell other people what
should
develop in their private relationships, or to tell anyone else what sort of relationship is better or "deeper"? physicality is not subordinate to emotional connection. the two of them are deeply intertwined, and different people will find that different balances between the two will work for them. it's completely ignorant and close-minded of anyone to disparage anyone else's choices in that regard or to try to tell them that what they want is wrong.
i mean, really, how
dare
anyone say something like "However, if it's that important to you that she looks sexy, you, and maybe her too, are focusing on the wrong things"? people have the right to seek sexual fulfillment as well as emotional fulfillment, and no one has any right to tell them that there's anything wrong with that. he wants to be with a partner he finds attractive. don't we all? what's wrong with that?
sorry, this sort of attitude is just really infuriating. it takes a lot of people
years
of therapy to accept that they have the right to seek happiness in the sexual realm, and comments like that really tend to screw people up in the head.
now, anyway, back to
SithMaster12
's actual question.
is there anything wrong with asking someone to wear something, or do something like a particular act or position or using a particular toy, or what-have-you, that turns you on? no, of course not.
however, once you've asked them and they've said no, is there any way to get them to wear something they really don't want to wear? not really. however, this might be a good time to get into talking to her about your sex life. usually, these things tend to work better as part of an ongoing, open-ended dialogue, and it can be a nice gesture if you ask your partner first if there's anything they'd like
you
to do for
them
, and to be as open to trying it within whatever boundaries you have. it's usually a lot easier to get someone to try something you'd like them to do if you're in a friendly, giving atmosphere of play and experimentation. just dropping a "hey, put this on for me" out of nowhere is generally much less effective than establishing an open dialogue where all people involved feel that they are emotionally safe and that their audience is receptive to their needs and wants.
that said, buying the thongs for her was probably not the brightest move. you've probably put her in a position where she feels like you think she should feel obligated to put them on simply because you shelled out the bucks for them, which she's not, in any way. you chose to buy them knowing she might not want them, so it's your responsibility if she doesn't. it sounds like you may have come on with too much pressure. you might find it helpful to ease off the whole topic for a while, and try to develop a good dialogue like i said above, but it's your ball to call.
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