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Darth_Guy Registered: Aug '02	Date Posted: 10/2/06 1:18pm Subject: RE: school shooting in pennsylvania
	There was a shooting at my university in the '70s. -----signature----- Perhaps I'll breed some sort of albino shouting gorilla.
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s65horsey Title: EUC and Arena Moddess Go Colts! Registered: Jun '06	Date Posted: 10/2/06 1:18pm Subject: RE: school shooting in pennsylvania
	cdmcc AS per the previous discussion on children with problems, I was at a conference recently regarding learning difficulties etc, and the guy who was running it said that just about everyone has some kind of learning difficulty be it mild or severe. He went through loads of tests and it was quite interesting. Bad parenting has, however been glossed over, only being chucked (as ever) towards the single mothers. Quite frankly, just about every unruly child I have ever taught has two parents who were masquerading as imbeciles. If little Johnny did something wrong, it was put down to their 'problems' and never punished. I'm not saying get the belt out, but at least tell the kids why they did something wrong and what made it wrong. My mom is a teacher and the majority of her "problem" students come from parents who pretend their kid could never do anything wrong and thus there is no reason for punishment. My mom has personally witnessed a kid walk up and punch someone out of the blue, gave the kid a detention for it, and then had parents in her room yelling at her for being a bad teacher and there's no way their "perfect" child could have done this and she is picking on their child. Newsflash: Teachers don't like giving detentions because THEY also have to stay later and "Serve" them. -----signature----- Corran Horn is mine. Get used to it. One of Hammer's Angels Has reverted to being a 14 yr old. YAY JOBROS and TWILIGHT! Just laugh at it.
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Darth-Horax Registered: Aug '01	Date Posted: 10/2/06 1:44pm Subject: RE: school shooting in pennsylvania
	Yup. Stupid parents breed stupid kids. It's proven. I hate the parents that say that their kid doesn't need to do homework if they don't want to, but don't want their kids to flunk out, either. It's a good thing I'm not a teacher, cause I'd tell them off. -----signature----- CREATOR and ORIGINATOR of the Jedi Draft Series Founding High Councilman: SWC Jedi Trials Council Master of Vaapad (Form VII), Form I, and Form III Proud founding member of the Fecal Force Sir Trailer Link-Sarcasm Knights of the YJCC
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HanSolo29 Title: Fan Art Manager Registered: Apr '01	Date Posted: 10/2/06 2:40pm Subject: RE: school shooting in pennsylvania
	This is really a shame and just plain sick. It hit closer to home for me since it actually happened locally. And it happened to the Amish, no less. It makes you really wonder... -----signature----- "One little spark of inspiration is at the heart of all creation." "Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved." Romans 10:13 One of Hammer's Angels "High Hopes" for 2009! Go Phillies!
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DAR Registered: Jul '04	Date Posted: 10/2/06 3:14pm Subject: RE: school shooting in pennsylvania
	I underdstand that laughter is sometimes the best medicine for this, but hearing the ages of the victims to me means there shouldn't be any jokes about this at all. One thing I am happy about is that the gunman was a typical coward and decided to end his life. But what he did to those girls proves he was nothing but a world class (insert explicative) -----signature----- Currently Reading: Wolverine:Old Man Logan Packers prediction 12-4 Actual 4-3
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Darth Mischievous Registered: Oct '99	Date Posted: 10/2/06 8:11pm Subject: RE: school shooting in pennsylvania - Date Edited: 10/2/06 8:11pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Darth Mischievous
	When I was in high school (in the late 1980's), there was a kid who blew up one of the toilets with a pipe bomb. One kid was injured with shrapnel. If that would have happened today, it would be all over the national news. -----signature----- "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give it to those who are not." --Thomas Jefferson
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Dark Lady Mara Title: Manager Emeritus Registered: Jun '99	Date Posted: 10/2/06 9:48pm Subject: RE: school shooting in pennsylvania - Date Edited: 10/2/06 9:55pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Dark Lady Mara
	Suzuki_Akira posted: rhonderoo posted: No, I'm sorry, you're wrong. It used to be safer than now. You never really heard of handguns on school property until the last decade or so. There was still bullying, and schools participated in "capital" punishment (i.e. paddling), there was even gang violence in some, but the reports of school shootings and hostage situations have skyrocketed here lately. This is really sad. It appears, just from reading that article, that it isn't violence inside the school but some nutcase that took an Amish school hostage. Precisely. Also, what sort of schools are you talking about when you say there were no reports of violence? Suburban private schools with all-white students? Inner-city schools were never safe places. The school shooting seems to have turned into a fad within the last ten years or so, with copycats attempting to get attention the same way the Columbine shooters did, but that doesn't mean there was never violence in schools prior to 1999. Bath School massacre, Michigan, 1927 Cologne School shooting, Germany, 1964 UT Austin sniper, Texas, 1966 École Polytechnique, Quebec, 1989 -----signature----- "Sci Fi has been associated with geeks and dysfunctional, antisocial boys in their basements with video games and stuff like that, as opposed to... the female audience." ~~ SPOILER-FREE TILLLL EPISODE IV "there aren't that many Ls in til." - farraday
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Padawan716 Registered: Feb '01	Date Posted: 10/2/06 9:52pm Subject: RE: school shooting in pennsylvania
	Holy crap, I didn't know LeeKenobi was a SCIENTOLOGIST!!!!
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rhonderoo Title: Former Head Admin Registered: Aug '02	Date Posted: 10/2/06 9:57pm Subject: RE: school shooting in pennsylvania
	Dark Lady Mara posted: Suzuki_Akira posted: rhonderoo posted: No, I'm sorry, you're wrong. It used to be safer than now. You never really heard of handguns on school property until the last decade or so. There was still bullying, and schools participated in "capital" punishment (i.e. paddling), there was even gang violence in some, but the reports of school shootings and hostage situations have skyrocketed here lately. This is really sad. It appears, just from reading that article, that it isn't violence inside the school but some nutcase that took an Amish school hostage. Precisely. Also, what sort of schools are you talking about when you say there were no reports of violence? Suburban private schools with all-white students? Inner-city schools were never safe places. The school shooting seems to have turned into a fad within the last ten years or so, with copycats attempting to get attention the same way the Columbine shooters did, but that doesn't mean there was never violence in schools prior to 1990. I'm reading and re-reading my post up there and can't find where I say there was no reports of violence or no violence before the 1990's. -----signature----- DT421 FYI: You don't deal with me. I deal with you. Damned right the Jedi's fire has gone out of the universe. I was the bad-ass Class C extinguisher who snuffed them. - @darthvader (Darth Vader on Twitter)
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Dark Lady Mara Title: Manager Emeritus Registered: Jun '99	Date Posted: 10/2/06 10:08pm Subject: RE: school shooting in pennsylvania
	You (and others) implied in previous posts that school used to be a safe place. School was never a safe place. Human nature doesn't really change. Most stories about the good old days and how things used to be nicer than they are now are nonsense, imo. The only thing that's changed is nowadays we have a blood-and-guts-obsessed media which reports on all violence, all the time. -----signature----- "Sci Fi has been associated with geeks and dysfunctional, antisocial boys in their basements with video games and stuff like that, as opposed to... the female audience." ~~ SPOILER-FREE TILLLL EPISODE IV "there aren't that many Ls in til." - farraday
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harpuah Registered: Mar '05	Date Posted: 10/2/06 10:09pm Subject: RE: school shooting in pennsylvania - Date Edited: 10/2/06 10:10pm (1 edits total) Edited By: harpuah
	Explain something to me... Is it really relevant? Yes, in the past (pre 90's) there was violence in schools.. there was violence everywhere. Yes, it has become increasingly more commom in the past decade or more... probably because it has moved from being a primarily urban problem, to the suburbs, and more rural areas. Yes, I guess that, for some reason, would attract more media attention (sad, yes.... blame the media for that nonsense). However that isn't the issue here.. I'm confused... so you people who are arguing that there was school violence in the past, before Columbine, what exactly are you trying to say? Why is this a relevant point? What is the purpose of this argument? You are responding to a comment made by roo on the first page of this thread. That was her initial response to this tragic news. I guess I just don't see where exactly your coming from. Any violence that has happened ANYTIME in history, especially to kids, is tragic. -----signature----- "Si vas a acabar matándome en un ritual vudú y despues a violar mi cadáver, por lo menos guarda mi cabeza en un frasco como recuerdo."
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rhonderoo Title: Former Head Admin Registered: Aug '02	Date Posted: 10/2/06 10:11pm Subject: RE: school shooting in pennsylvania
	True, technically the world has never been a safe place and will never really be a "safe" place. (Heh, any of us could get hit by a bus tomorrow) But the rise of shootings like those today and in Wisconsin is what I was referring to earlier, the topic and the article. -----signature----- DT421 FYI: You don't deal with me. I deal with you. Damned right the Jedi's fire has gone out of the universe. I was the bad-ass Class C extinguisher who snuffed them. - @darthvader (Darth Vader on Twitter)
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MariahJSkywalker Title: Manager Emeritus Registered: Mar '05	Date Posted: 10/2/06 10:12pm Subject: RE: school shooting in pennsylvania
	I have to agree with Suzuki and Beth. I heard many stories about school from my mom and aunts(who went to school in the sixites and sevenites), where many bad things happened. They would never say going to school was safe. Of course they went to all black schools. -----signature----- many people here should be fixed, but that's another story.-KW Smut Peddlin' Squaw of the Knights of the 3SA/JCC Sarcasm Table R.I.P. Snowie
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ApolloSmileGirl Registered: Jun '04	Date Posted: 10/2/06 10:13pm Subject: RE: school shooting in pennsylvania
	It is disturbing that all of the recent events have happened in such a small timeframe. -----signature----- Queen " Baadasssss Pixie" of the Knights of the Sarcasm Table well, I don't know about you, but i'm going to homerun three strikes to the second base ~Daveeeeed~ Vin
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harpuah Registered: Mar '05	Date Posted: 10/2/06 10:13pm Subject: RE: school shooting in pennsylvania
	Three in less than a week.. -----signature----- "Si vas a acabar matándome en un ritual vudú y despues a violar mi cadáver, por lo menos guarda mi cabeza en un frasco como recuerdo."
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