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rhonderoo  41728 posts
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Date Posted: 10/2/06 10:16pm Subject: RE: school shooting in pennsylvania - Date Edited: 10/2/06 10:17pm (1 edits total) Edited By: rhonderoo
That's what I'm talking about, Juli. It really seems to be on the rise here lately.

I went to an inner city school here in Memphis in the seventies. I'm pretty aware that schools aren't always "safe", but in the context I'm talking about, I still say you didn't hear as much about school hostage situations and shootings as here lately. We'll just have to agree to disagree that there were school hostage situations with the same frequency as now.

 

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Katana_Geldar  27881 posts
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Date Posted: 10/2/06 10:21pm Subject: RE: school shooting in pennsylvania
But the question is are there more or do we just know about them more often?

 

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YodaKenobi  11644 posts
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Date Posted: 10/2/06 10:22pm Subject: RE: school shooting in pennsylvania
rhonderoo posted:
That's what I'm talking about, Juli. It really seems to be on the rise here lately.

I went to an inner city school here in Memphis in the seventies. I'm pretty aware that schools aren't always "safe", but in the context I'm talking about, I still say you didn't hear as much about school hostage situations and shootings as here lately. We'll just have to agree to disagree that there were school hostage situations with the same frequency as now.


I think school shootings are down from where they were over a decade ago.

I think the big difference in so many of these cases happening close together is the fact that we have 24 hour cable news and the internet to run these stories constantly. I'm not saying those mediums are encouraging copycats, but they certainly seem to inspire them.

 

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rhonderoo  41728 posts
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Date Posted: 10/2/06 10:23pm Subject: RE: school shooting in pennsylvania
Something we may never know. wink Does a tree make a sound when it falls when no one is around. mischief If you were alive back then, let us know, though. I can only go back to about 1976. tongue

 

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Dark Lady Mara  26473 posts
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Date Posted: 10/2/06 10:28pm Subject: RE: school shooting in pennsylvania
harpuah posted:
I'm confused... so you people who are arguing that there was school violence in the past, before Columbine, what exactly are you trying to say? Why is this a relevant point? What is the purpose of this argument?

This doesn't make sense to me. What's the "purpose" of any discussion about anything? Multiple posters made comments about the good old days when things were safer, and I'm saying I disagree with that. Are we not allowed to post any responses to this thread other than "how messed up; I hope the shooter burns in hell"? 'Cause that's getting into LeeKenobi territory. wink

 

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ApolloSmileGirl  30460 posts
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Date Posted: 10/2/06 10:29pm Subject: RE: school shooting in pennsylvania
I went to an inner city high school as well, but it was an Arts Magnet School, that you had to audition to get into, so there really wasn't much of a threatning environment.

However, there were plenty of students that had siblings that went to other schools thruout the grittier schools in the district, and I heard plenty of disturbing things secondhand. Stabbings, attacks, shootings, heck I even heard of a few driveby shootings in front of some of the schools after school let out and there were tons of potential innocent students/faculty/parents(not that the intended victims weren't)outside.

That being said, I never heard of anyone or anyones going into a school armed to the teeth with automatic weapons and assault rifles looking to kill anyone that they came across.

Has anyone seen Gus Van Sant's "Elephant"? It's a loosely based on Columbine, and is a very smart take in the horrific reality of what it must be like to go to school one day and think everything's normal, and just like that have your school turned into a warzone.

 

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MariahJSkywalker  18680 posts
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Date Posted: 10/2/06 10:30pm Subject: RE: school shooting in pennsylvania - Date Edited: 10/2/06 10:34pm (3 edits total) Edited By: MariahJSkywalker
My mom turned 20 in 1976. grin I can always ask her more about what it's like going to school in the mystical 60's.

I went to a inner city HS. We had at least 3-4 lockdowns a year either because someone threatened to bomb the school, or someone jerk was running around with a pistol. Once ran into the SWAT team while going to the bathroom.

I remember once when I was a little girl, sneaking into a high shcool to stand on the steps where a kid was shot down.

 

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Darth_Guy  53999 posts
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Date Posted: 10/2/06 10:32pm Subject: RE: school shooting in pennsylvania
Marine snipers picked off 1 out 5 students at random. It's true. Look it up.

 

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KnightWriter  34471 posts
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Date Posted: 10/3/06 8:28am Subject: RE: school shooting in pennsylvania
10 myths about school shootings: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15111438/page/2/

Myth No. 10. “School violence is rampant.”

It may seem so, with media attention focused on a spate of school shootings. In fact, school shootings are extremely rare. Even including the more common violence that is gang-related or dispute-related, only 12 to 20 homicides a year occur in the 100,000 schools in the U.S. In general, school assaults and other violence have dropped by nearly half in the past decade.

 

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Darth-Horax  12362 posts
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Date Posted: 10/3/06 8:37am Subject: RE: school shooting in pennsylvania
I guess it's time to celebrate then! Woo=hoo!

 

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Date Posted: 10/3/06 8:55am Subject: RE: school shooting in pennsylvania
KnightWriter posted:
10 myths about school shootings: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15111438/page/2/

Myth No. 10. “School violence is rampant.”

It may seem so, with media attention focused on a spate of school shootings. In fact, school shootings are extremely rare. Even including the more common violence that is gang-related or dispute-related, only 12 to 20 homicides a year occur in the 100,000 schools in the U.S. In general, school assaults and other violence have dropped by nearly half in the past decade.



Only 12 to 20? You guys are so fortunate!

 

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ZebulaNebula  8770 posts
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Date Posted: 10/3/06 8:59am Subject: RE: school shooting in pennsylvania
KnightWriter posted:
10 myths about school shootings: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15111438/page/2/

Myth No. 10. “School violence is rampant.”

It may seem so, with media attention focused on a spate of school shootings. In fact, school shootings are extremely rare. Even including the more common violence that is gang-related or dispute-related, only 12 to 20 homicides a year occur in the 100,000 schools in the U.S. In general, school assaults and other violence have dropped by nearly half in the past decade.



IMO the reason they've dropped is the post-Columbine security measures that have been implemented. People are still as violent, only the battlefield has changed.

 

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JediMaster22  36356 posts
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Date Posted: 10/3/06 9:01am Subject: RE: school shooting in pennsylvania
Very Sad! sad

 

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Suzuki_Akira  24036 posts
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Date Posted: 10/3/06 9:35am Subject: RE: school shooting in pennsylvania
Dark Lady Mara posted:
Are we not allowed to post any responses to this thread other than "how messed up; I hope the shooter burns in hell"? 'Cause that's getting into LeeKenobi territory. wink


LK is never gonna live that down, is he?

 

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Eleventh_Guard  5861 posts
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Date Posted: 10/3/06 1:00pm Subject: RE: school shooting in pennsylvania
To be honest, I'd rather have a little more freedom, even if that means a little less security. I do what I want to within reason and don't worry about miniscule chances of something bad happening.

Crazy security measures in schools are only necessary in particular schools that have extreme problems with gang violence. Otherwise, they are more likely to interrupt the learning process and waste money instead of stop anyone from doing anything bad. If someone wants to cause trouble, THEY WILL. Cracking down mainly stops the minor troublemakers and the major ones still wreak havoc.

 

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