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DarthTunick
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Date Posted:
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RE: Winter-Spring 2008: The Republican and Democratic Primaries and Caucuses thread.
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DarthLassic007 posted:
Not completely done. She can use her dropping out as leverage to secure the VP position. Which would hurt Obama if Hillary is on the ticket.
Obama reserves the right to say "no", which I think is what's going to happen. There is nothing she can say or do to force him. He can gamble that enough Clinton supporters will ultimately vote for him anyway.
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DarthLassic007
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KnightWriter posted:
DarthLassic007 posted:
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Not completely done. She can use her dropping out as leverage to secure the VP position. Which would hurt Obama if Hillary is on the ticket.
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Obama reserves the right to say "no", which I think is what's going to happen. There is nothing she can say or do to force him. He can gamble that enough Clinton supporters will ultimately vote for him anyway.
Obama should say "no" to Hillary. Hillary would hurt Obama as his VP. But if Obama does say "no" then she could make things more difficult for him. Hillary does have a huge following, both with voters and with high powered Democratic officials.
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Emperor_Billy_Bob
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Suzuki_Akira posted:
Obama/Edwards would make loads more sense to me. Edwards' character is pretty inassailable, which I think would be an asset to Obama given the Trinity controversy, and serve to remind voters that they're cut from the cloth of integrity.
Yeah, lets pick the guy who lost as VP in 2004, and tanked in the Primaries!
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DarthLassic007 posted:
KnightWriter posted:
DarthLassic007 posted:
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Not completely done. She can use her dropping out as leverage to secure the VP position. Which would hurt Obama if Hillary is on the ticket.
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Obama reserves the right to say "no", which I think is what's going to happen. There is nothing she can say or do to force him. He can gamble that enough Clinton supporters will ultimately vote for him anyway.
Obama should say "no" to Hillary. Hillary would hurt Obama as his VP. But if Obama does say "no" then she could make things more difficult for him. Hillary does have a huge following, both with voters and with high powered Democratic officials.
The backlash would be severe for her if she is seen as harming Obama's chances in any way. She still has a career in the Senate, and possibly as a presidential candidate in the future, unless she destroys it.
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DarthLassic007
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Date Posted:
6/3 5:54pm
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KnightWriter posted:
DarthLassic007 posted:
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KnightWriter posted:
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DarthLassic007 posted:
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Not completely done. She can use her dropping out as leverage to secure the VP position. Which would hurt Obama if Hillary is on the ticket.
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Obama reserves the right to say "no", which I think is what's going to happen. There is nothing she can say or do to force him. He can gamble that enough Clinton supporters will ultimately vote for him anyway.
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Obama should say "no" to Hillary. Hillary would hurt Obama as his VP. But if Obama does say "no" then she could make things more difficult for him. Hillary does have a huge following, both with voters and with high powered Democratic officials.
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The backlash would be severe for her if she is seen as harming Obama's chances in any way. She still has a career in the Senate, and possibly as a presidential candidate in the future, unless she destroys it.
I wouldn't put it passed her. You know that Hillary out on the trail on TV will be supporting Obama. But secretly, deep down, she wants McCain to crush Obama like Reagan did with Mondale. In private she wants McCain to win so she can run again in 2012.
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CNN and MSNBC declare Obama the 2008 Democratic nominee.
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NBC declares Obama the presumptive nominee.
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6/3 6:03pm
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At any rate, its not for her to offer/demand to be VP, and its not for Obama to turn down any such offer. As the nominee, its for Obama to chose the VP candidate, and for said person to accept or decline.
That said, some have suggested that she wants him to offer it to her, just so she can tell him to go to hell.
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Emperor_Billy_Bob posted:
Suzuki_Akira posted:
Obama/Edwards would make loads more sense to me. Edwards' character is pretty inassailable, which I think would be an asset to Obama given the Trinity controversy, and serve to remind voters that they're cut from the cloth of integrity.
Yeah, lets pick the guy who lost as VP in 2004, and tanked in the Primaries!
By my estimation, Edwards was the third foremost runner.
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Vivec,
Cable news >
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Of course he was, but he still dropped out fairly early because he saw no chance of winning.
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Date Posted:
6/3 6:23pm
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RE: Winter-Spring 2008: The Republican and Democratic Primaries and Caucuses thread.
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MSNBC projects Hillary the winner of South Dakota.
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Fox News and CNN have done the same.
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Am I the only one who thought it was weird for MSNBC to cut away in the middle of McCain's speech, to announce Obama's presumptive nomination, and never cut back?
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This just in...Hillary Clinton's mind projects her the winner of the Nomination.
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